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resqguy

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I'm going to apologize in advance for rambling, because this is probably going to be WAY too long....but whatever.

Last August, I walked away from 12 years in the U.S. Coast Guard, 10 of those were spent as a helicopter rescue swimmer. I left, primarily because I was tired of moving every 4 years and I wanted to plant some roots somewhere. Secondarily, DHS totally ruined the Coast Guard after 9/11. Previously, we were DOT so our funding was different...etc Anyway, the job I was counting on after I got out fell through due to a hiring freeze. (That freeze has since been lifted and I should be starting with them next month) Anyway, I was left without a paycheck. No big deal...I could go a while without working and still be ok, financially, but I still wanted a job.

Against my better judgment, I accepted a job with the LAPD. I really didn't want to become a cop, but I thought the academy would be a good experience. And who knows? Maybe I'd like the job, after all? Ok, I'm in no way commenting on law enforcement as a whole, but I can say with some experience that the LAPD's level of professionalism is overstated. The department, as a whole, is FILLED with very fragile, very inflated egos. I had to jump through HOOPS for these douchebags during my background check. Because I was older and moved around a lot in the Coast Guard, naturally I have more of a history and more past addresses. Of course, they accused me of "running away" from something. Hello??? Coast Guard??? Uh...I have an active Federal Secret Clearance...pretty sure I'm not a thug or a criminal. They didn't care.

They naturally assume that this is the first "real job" of every new recruit, regardless of age. And as such, you're treated like you have no real-life experience. While most of these tools were packing away donuts, I was pulling people out of houses in New Orleans after Katrina. Whatever...I can get past that. What I found interesting is that the majority of my instructors were younger than I am, and most of them had very little experience "on the streets." Another thing that blew me away was the fact that your average recruit was a 22 year old college drop out. Awesome. The maturity level of your average LAPD recruit is STARTLINGLY low, and they're giving these people guns and sending them out to "protect and to serve." No thanks. I actually had one 22 year old recruit tell me about how he was kicked out of 3 high schools for fighting, and had gang ties...yet somehow, he passed backgrounds and was going to be a cop. Are you fucking kidding me???

Ok, I'll stop....I could go on typing for HOURS about this. This is in no way aimed at discrediting law enforcement as a whole. I think law enforcement is a very noble profession (except for the dickhole's at the DEA...fuck you guys.) and I'm glad that there are good officers out there who take their jobs seriously. But my experience, thus far, with the LAPD has been a sour one.
 
Sounds like you're potentially setting yourself up to be frustrated and miserable. I think you'd be a really good cop but it would make you crazy to see that shit every day.
 
jnevin said:
Sounds like you're potentially setting yourself up to be frustrated and miserable. I think you'd be a really good cop but it would make you crazy to see that shit every day.

Thanks for the props. I think I'd be an ok cop, simply for the fact that I've learned how to deal with different types of people, and that showing a little respect and common courtesy can diffuse a lot of potentially bad situations. Like I said though, the job I really wanted has finally presented itself so the misery should go away shortly.

In response to hs lifter. I'm going to decline comment on that.
 
resqguy said:
Thanks for the props. I think I'd be an ok cop, simply for the fact that I've learned how to deal with different types of people, and that showing a little respect and common courtesy can diffuse a lot of potentially bad situations. Like I said though, the job I really wanted has finally presented itself so the misery should go away shortly.

In response to hs lifter. I'm going to decline comment on that.

I guess you are not an officer yet.....

Good luck!
 
Powerbuilder333 said:
If you think sniping mothers holding their children (Ruby Ridge) is fun then ......


That was the FBI and the U.S. Marshalls there cowboy. Get your facts straight.
 
jnevin said:
That was the FBI and the U.S. Marshalls there cowboy. Get your facts straight.
You are correct, it was Lon Horiuchi, an FBI sniper.
It was the ATF that entrapped Randy Weaver into sawing off a shotgun without paying the $200 tax stamp that lead to the US Marshalls killing the Weaver's dog and shooting their son in the back.
Facts straight enough for you?
 
Powerbuilder333 said:
You are correct, it was Lon Horiuchi, an FBI sniper.
It was the ATF that entrapped Randy Weaver into sawing off a shotgun without paying the $200 tax stamp that lead to the US Marshalls killing the Weaver's dog and shooting their son in the back.
Facts straight enough for you?
i read the ruby ridge book, so i know about this dude
what happened to his career after the trial?
i think he was found not responsible
 
and resguy cheers to you for your accomplishments...ten yrs in the coast guard, though, it would seem could provide more options that being a LAPD.
seems like you'd have sheetloads of other options
 
Bino said:
i read the ruby ridge book, so i know about this dude
what happened to his career after the trial?
i think he was found not responsible


He was indicted in state court but the case was moved to federal court and squashed almost immediately. He was also at Waco.
 
Powerbuilder333 said:
You are correct, it was Lon Horiuchi, an FBI sniper.
It was the ATF that entrapped Randy Weaver into sawing off a shotgun without paying the $200 tax stamp that lead to the US Marshalls killing the Weaver's dog and shooting their son in the back.
Facts straight enough for you?


lol @ the ATF entrapping someone into sawing off a shotgun. Was it like a peer pressure sting? That's funny.

The kid, mother, and dog were completely unnecessary. Shooting 3 people while they're running away and taking a blind shot through a door when they knew children were there was stupid. Very tragic.
 
jnevin said:
lol @ the ATF entrapping someone into sawing off a shotgun. Was it like a peer pressure sting? That's funny.

The kid, mother, and dog were completely unnecessary. Shooting 3 people while they're running away and taking a blind shot through a door when they knew children were there was stupid. Very tragic.

all could've been avoided if the dude would've just peaceably given himself up to face his warrant.
 
Bino said:
and resguy cheers to you for your accomplishments...ten yrs in the coast guard, though, it would seem could provide more options that being a LAPD.
seems like you'd have sheetloads of other options

Thanks, but there's not a very high demand for civilians who jump out of helicopters, lol.
 
That scumbag POS ATF agent got off.

You want to know the irony.. Randy Weaver WON his lawsuit and yet nothing happened..

and guess what agent what present at Waco...

hmmmm



The ATF are pure fucking scum. And Horiuchi should be in prison for murdering Weavers wife.. that WAS NOT an accidental shot..


It fills me with so much anger every time this is broguht up... the ATF got away with murder...
 
milo hobgoblin said:
That scumbag POS ATF agent got off.

You want to know the irony.. Randy Weaver WON his lawsuit and yet nothing happened..

and guess what agent what present at Waco...

hmmmm



The ATF are pure fucking scum. And Horiuchi should be in prison for murdering Weavers wife.. that WAS NOT an accidental shot..


It fills me with so much anger every time this is broguht up... the ATF got away with murder...


It was the FBI. Yes, that sniper got away with murder. But the fucker put his whole family in harm's way by acting irresponsibly.
 
i knew it! when u posted the thread about deca for an injury so you could participate in a physical job. i called out LE then.....lol
 
jnevin said:
It was the FBI. Yes, that sniper got away with murder. But the fucker put his whole family in harm's way by acting irresponsibly.

care to explain how he acted irresponsibly??? All he wanted was to be left alone.

They used some bullshit reason to set him up because he wouldnt narc on some local skinhead militia.. because he wasnt a skinhead.. he was a sepratist and wanted nothing to do with them.

So they come up with some bullshit reason to raid his property.. and HE is acting irresponsibly??
 
milo hobgoblin said:
care to explain how he acted irresponsibly??? All he wanted was to be left alone.

They used some bullshit reason to set him up because he wouldnt narc on some local skinhead militia.. because he wasnt a skinhead.. he was a sepratist and wanted nothing to do with them.

So they come up with some bullshit reason to raid his property.. and HE is acting irresponsibly??
he had a weapons related warrant that they were trying to serve
he was a douchebag for not surrendering...if this situation was tweaked a bit, and a black gangsta was evading a felony warrant, you'd be screaming for his head imo.
 
Bino said:
he had a weapons related warrant that they were trying to serve
he was a douchebag for not surrendering...if this situation was tweaked a bit, and a black gangsta was evading a felony warrant, you'd be screaming for his head imo.


and if you had read anything about what happened you'd know as well as those ATF agents and Weaver that warrant was bullshit.


Being the typical spiteful, vindictive fucking bitches that ATF (and most federal agents) are.. they were pissed because he wouldnt be their little bitch.




How many times do these assholes have to fuck up and murder people for EXTREMELY minor shit before yopu figure it out?
 
Bino said:
he had a weapons related warrant that they were trying to serve
he was a douchebag for not surrendering...if this situation was tweaked a bit, and a black gangsta was evading a felony warrant, you'd be screaming for his head imo.
In my view your wrong Bino.
The US Marshalls never ID'd themselves. They were found by the family dog wearing Vietnam style camaflage, so they killed the dog with full auto M16's and shot Weavers son in the back. Harris (a family friend) returned fire and killed Marshall Degan and was aquited of all charges because it was deemed justifiable.
Weaver wasn't given a chance to surrender until the next day, when LE finally ID'd themselves. He held out for 12 days when an attorney was able to quarantee Weaver, Harris, and his 2 daughters that they wouldn't be killed in cold blood like his son and wife were.
Tweak the scenario. When Philly police killed all memebers of MOVE (a black seperatist movement) including their children, by literally dropping a bomb on their urban complex, destroying a city block, I was equally pissed of at LE.
I'm not even going to discuss Waco.
We haven't seen this kind of abuse of power since Clinton/Reno left office. Draw your own conclusions.
 
8and20 said:
i knew it! when u posted the thread about deca for an injury so you could participate in a physical job. i called out LE then.....lol

Yeah, yeah, lol. Actually, I injured myself in the academy. The PT test I mentioned earlier is for a different job.
 
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