The joint-friendly steroids

[Lumberg]

Question:

When you use the joint-friendly AAS like deca, can you make permanent structural changes to your joints? Or do the effects only persist while you're on?

For example someone mentioned that deca is very popular among pitchers in baseball. Will a pitcher who did one long cycle of deca haev a longer career than one who never did it, all other things held constant?

 

[psychedout]

Interesting question. I would think joints are only aleaved of pain while on though. Not 100% sure though.

 

[gspotme]

I can only say that while on, man neeeever complains, while off, shit is f'd up. (he's had a bad past injury) he's convinced he's gonna keep running a low dose of deca- 100mg. we will see...

~g~

 

[alltraps]

no, it is not permanant, as all that is gone by the drug is lubrication. this fades ones treatment is discontinued

 

[Lumberg]

If you have an injury to a joint, say a broken bone and damage to cartilage, would it help you recover more quickly? Meaning, once you stopped, would you stay fully healed?

 

[alltraps]

If you have an injury to a joint, say a broken bone and damage to cartilage, would it help you recover more quickly? Meaning, once you stopped, would you stay fully healed?

no. i have discussed this with a few doctors over the years as i have major problems with my shoulders and left elbow. if a fractured tendon, or ligament or joint is not given adaquete rest, ie stop training it for 6 months, it will not likely recover

 

[Lift Chief]

All deca will do is lubricate joints for the period you're on it and no longer.

Deca just masks the problem... it shouldn't contribute anything positive to the healing process.

 

[The_Eviscerator]

Actually Deca, Primobolan and EQ do increase collagen production... Winstrol does as well, but it lacks the crosshatching and really makes bigger weaker tendons. Deca also increases synovial fluid which also helps to lubricate joints.

Read this: http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/rea/030903.htm

It is a protocol to use to rejuvinate joints.

 

[eviction]

Question:

When you use the joint-friendly AAS like deca, can you make permanent structural changes to your joints? Or do the effects only persist while you're on?

For example someone mentioned that deca is very popular among pitchers in baseball. Will a pitcher who did one long cycle of deca haev a longer career than one who never did it, all other things held constant?

I can vouch that nandrolone has worked wonders on my shoulder. I had severe joint pain and problems and it was very difficult to work out. I had a thread yesterday that showed a picture where you could see my wonderful scar, dig it up if you wanna check it out. Three weeks into my cycle my shoulder was almost completely stablized. I'm beginning week 5 and the results are astounding. I honestly beleived that it would have taken years if not forever to get my shoulder to heal naturally. There was so much scar tissue and loose messed up joint problems that it was next to impossible.

 

[B182]

The mechanisms by which nandrolone earned its reputation as being good for your joints isnt known for sure- you're just left with speculation and theory, thats it. Claiming otherwise is bullshitting until peer reviewed research is conducted and published. No one really knows with any certainty whether or not it merely masks the pain or actually promotes healing.

Actually Deca, Primobolan and EQ do increase collagen production... Winstrol does as well, but it lacks the crosshatching and really makes bigger weaker tendons. Deca also increases synovial fluid which also helps to lubricate joints.

Read this: http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/rea/030903.htm

It is a protocol to use to rejuvinate joints.

It's true but I think its misleading. SOme AAS do promote collagen synthesis, and I guess maybe that's a good thing, if you don't give a damn about athletic performance and injury potential. Your connective tissues are composed of two protein types- collagen and elastin. As its name implies elastin provides the elastic, energy storing and protective qualities that are so important in athletics. Collagen lends some strenght and rigidy to the complex. As you age your joints/tendons shift towards a composition higher in collagen and less elastin, leading to a deterioration in joint health and athleticism, and more brittle connective tissues prone to injury. AAS that promote collagen synthesis only speed up the process. The textbook "Supertraining" by Mel Siff (RIP)discusses in detail the mechanisms of connective tissues pertaining to overallperformance enhancement and protective mechanisms, and how they become greatly impaired and weakened by increased collagen.