The GH debate, worth it?

[cranny]

I'm planning on running my first cycle of GH this Jan. For those who have used it, do you think it's worth it? You ask 10 people and you seem to get 10 dif. answers. My reasons for wanting to try it are typical as most. I'll soon be 37. I was hoping for some improvement on minor aches and pains in my joints, aid in some fat loss, and grow some new muscle tissue. I was planning on 6 mos. at 3-4 iu's/day. I'll be running it w/ AAS only. I'm not going into it thinking I'll get a total body transformation but would like some overall improvement. Your thoughts?

 

[ricorico]

ive been on it for a month or so an so far im not impressed, though i know its too early. And my joints have been killing me since ive been taking it. Im on Jintropin (3ius ed)

 

[AhMadKooL]

GH will not help in your joint pain; on the contrary some get joint pains from it,

I think a dose of 6 iu's a day would be better.. At this dose u can expect some fat loss and an increase in size if u stack it with other AAS. at a minimum i'd run it for 6 months.

more info:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/cathuman.htm

 

[Kachunga]

If you are unimpressed by GH, or think its worthless you have either gotten fake/damaged GH or did not use it for a long enough period. BB's use GH. let me say it again BB'S USE GH. They use it because it works! It will aid in fat loss, it is lypolitic. It will with AS aid in muscle hypertrophy and with its promotion of endogenous igf-1 levels aid in hyperplasia as well.
Ahmad, if you have real stuff and start at 6 i.u.'s/day you will be in some real pain. While the magic starts happening at 5+i.u.'s better to work your way up to that.
I started at 5 i.u.'s/day hands and feet swelled really bad and wrists hurt so much I couldnt put 135lb barbell on them. I have since dropped the dose to 3 and am having better results.

 

[solidspine]

On for more than 2 years maybe three,

Simply not worth it, in gains, weight lost or money spent,

 

[taoiron]

I am 38 bro…

I have been on for 7 months… I plan to run it indefinitely….

I run 5 on 2 off. 4 iued while on 2 iued while off.

Great results!! It has helped me lean out and stay lean!!

My 2ml,

Taoiron

 

[The Rage]

at 4-6 iued for 6 months should someone expect any adverse side effects such as unwanted bone growth?

 

[Cauliflower Ear]

i like growth...been on for 8 months 4iu eod...im 23 and enjoying it...so you older gents should really love it...

 

[The Rage]

i like growth...been on for 8 months 4iu eod...im 23 and enjoying it...so you older gents should really love it...

what kind of results are you seeing from growth?

 

[1Mistake2006]

You'll love it if money isn't an issue...use Thyroid too

 

[The Rage]

You'll love it if money isn't an issue...use Thyroid too

yeah don't have the cash right now but i would like to try it out in the future.

 

[dr_skier]

t3/t4 shouldn't be a $$$ factor if you can afford gh?

 

[ricorico]

one can purchase T3 with the change found in their couch

 

[1Mistake2006]

i think he meant the gh guys.......

 

[MTS]

i think if you are old enough and are taking it as replacement therapy and not in high dosages, and have the money...then yeah go for it

 

[chazk]

at 4-6 iued for 6 months should someone expect any adverse side effects such as unwanted bone growth?

the question seems to be skated around or avoided doesnt it?
Most guys dont like to talk about internal organ growth and heart enlargement.
when every study done shows growth will do exactly that.
Its a old taboo only enjoy the effects you like and the negative ones never exist when your trying to justify usage and not be scared to take it your self.
The longivity clinics only perscribe 2 Iu a day to 6- yr old men trying to regain the amount of gh preduced at age 24.
So to say that 6 iu's a day is 3 times the dosage and wont cuase internal growth in the long run would just be silly .

although like i said no one will prob give you a honest anwser and i doubt many people have a heart scan done before gh use and 3 years down the road and see if it actually gets enlarged.(using high doses )

If you are at a comp level and pushing the envalope and need the extra growth then 6iu-10iu is prob what you will have to do just to keep up with the other guys next to you. If your looking for anti aging purposes then 2iu a day is the amount your gonna use.

Its your body your gonna have to live with it a long time choose wisely

 

[chazk]

i know i'll get alot of bitching about my post above .But thats just reality drugs have side effects when taken in excess.Not knocking the usa of gh becuase people can do what ever they choose . i just want you to be aware at 6 iu a day what the effects are and suggest you do some research on your own then come to your best conclusion.

 

[Kachunga]

sniff, sniff, I smell bullshit. Bro get real. 6 i.u.'s/day isnt going to do what you claim. Lots of growth (10+)+lots of insulin+extremely heavy lifts is what causes growth gut.
Thousands of athletes take growth and only a small % of them suffer from growth gut.
Of course your heart can grow, whats wrong with that? I don't want the heart of a 155lb guy in the body of a 255 lb guuy do I? There's nothing wrong with expressing a concern, the scare tactic is not necessary

 

[Kick-Ass Stack]

C'mon guys, chazk is just trying to put some info out there for people to read and to learn. It's his opinion and honestly it's good that people post up some of the negative side effects.

I'm planning on giving 2iu/day a shot (pun intended) and may work up to 3-4iu/day. I'm 24.

This is a great thread.

 

[WhatOkay]

On for more than 2 years maybe three,

Simply not worth it, in gains, weight lost or money spent,

i thought i read earlier that you said you've been on gh FOR 9 years?

 

[humble]

sniff, sniff, I smell bullshit. Bro get real. 6 i.u.'s/day isnt going to do what you claim. Lots of growth (10+)+lots of insulin+extremely heavy lifts is what causes growth gut.
Thousands of athletes take growth and only a small % of them suffer from growth gut.
Of course your heart can grow, whats wrong with that? I don't want the heart of a 155lb guy in the body of a 255 lb guuy do I? There's nothing wrong with expressing a concern, the scare tactic is not necessary

lol, bro cardiomegaly is a huge deal, and I am not just saying that because I am a coronary cath nurse. lol.

a few symptoms include Breathing difficulties, Shortness of breath, Dizziness, Abnormal heart rhythm (dysrhythmia),Swelling (edema)

 

[1Mistake2006]

The AIDS dose is 18ius per day!! I have a feeling 6 won't give you a growth gut

 

[chazk]

The AIDS dose is 18ius per day!! I have a feeling 6 won't give you a growth gut

i guess you have never seen a guy with full blown aids his stomach swells like a ethopian from all the drugs and the arms and legs waste away but get really veiny at first.
aids people are terminally ill and any extension of life is better then none.

 

[Kachunga]

i guess you have never seen a guy with full blown aids his stomach swells like a ethopian from all the drugs and the arms and legs waste away but get really veiny at first.
aids people are terminally ill and any extension of life is better then none.

Who do you think I get my growth hormone from?

 

[chazk]

Who do you think I get my growth hormone from?

lol bro then you know first hand by looking at the guy whats going on with his stomach.If not now what a few more years and look at him
its not pretty.
My wife is friends with two gay dudes major flammers one was very sick and he would wear a tiny tank top and you could see his stomach pushing out a full 6 pack with a 42 inch waiste he only weighed 200lbs at most and was 5'10. He was on his death bed when i meet my wife so i never saw him before but i did see a picture he waiste was no bigger then his partners 34 inches. 5 years before he started the hiv cocktail 6 drugs with GH as the main staple it stripped every ounce of fat right off him and blew his stomach up beyond belief. My wife is still friends with the partner of his I'll have her ask him exactly what his boyfriend was on and what doses to see if that can anwser a few questions about dose and side effects

 

[mlong23]

You get 10 different results, because thats the type of drug it is. Its not like Test, which you know will work for 90% of people. Give it a try, and then you will know if it worked for you or not. Unfortunately only you will be able to answer that, and the cost sucks.