The D-bol...NEED HELP

[HighIntensity]

Alright need some help...

My first use of gear I was going to due Anavar 50 mgs for 10 weeks....

I have a great frame to work with so with the right supps and diet it would have worked for me...problem getting anavar, the stuff I want spanish generic at a good price is overseas...

Now I could go with a four week russian Dbol... the price is good and can get it locally....

Heres what I need to know

A. Will Dbol without a dought cause hair lose...and yes im prone in the front only...I use some things that have stoped it...will still use them on Dbol, but it's not worth it to me to lose my hair. Some have told me 4 weeks is 2 short to experince any long term hairloss

B. Will Dbol cause hairy back ect. I don't really need hair growing all over my body...

This is really it...just weighing my options please help

 

[GaryWary]

this is you first cycle.. you will be better off to add test at 250mg per week at least. you also need clomid...

 

[HighIntensity]

of course I will use clomid...

But as I have said before I will not run test...I barely want to do Dbol but I can get it so hell...

just want to no the sides and how many mgs I should use...

I have a really good base---done pro hormones and lifted for 5 years

thanks

 

[GaryWary]

of course I will use clomid...

But as I have said before I will not run test...I barely want to do Dbol but I can get it so hell...

just want to no the sides and how many mgs I should use...

I have a really good base---done pro hormones and lifted for 5 years

thanks

Test will make your first cycle more successful.

You will have few sides from the amounts you are talking about....

pro-hormones are shit....

 

[spector175]

I would like to hear some good advice on this. HI my buddies that have used Dbol before talked me into using it. From what I gather anything less than 25mg-30mg would be a waste. Plus all of my buddies use it for the same reasons you have stated and I can say none of them have experienced any kind of abnormal hair growth or hair loss. But they havn't been taking abnormal amounts either.

I am going to take 30mg ED for 4 wks in the begining of my cycle.
Like the other bros have said, use some test to help keep your gains. Good luck bro on your cycle and hope you keep your hair.

 

[testalot]

Alright need some help...

My first use of gear I was going to due Anavar 50 mgs for 10 weeks....

I have a great frame to work with so with the right supps and diet it would have worked for me...problem getting anavar, the stuff I want spanish generic at a good price is overseas...

Now I could go with a four week russian Dbol... the price is good and can get it locally....

Heres what I need to know

A. Will Dbol without a dought cause hair lose...and yes im prone in the front only...I use some things that have stoped it...will still use them on Dbol, but it's not worth it to me to lose my hair. Some have told me 4 weeks is 2 short to experince any long term hairloss

B. Will Dbol cause hairy back ect. I don't really need hair growing all over my body...

This is really it...just weighing my options please help

steroids that convert to DHT will cause your hair to drop. dbol will cause you to loose more hair. tes will, primobolan will, tren will, etc etc, steroids will make your hair jump off your head. sad but true.

 

[spector175]

Does anyone ever notice hair loss while on clomid?

 

[HighIntensity]

Steriods cause DHT no shit...but if you stop DHT you will not lose as much...stop it with Saw Pal.-Green T-Nettle-propecia-pygem
and Nizoral Shampoo

Now I really want to know if a Dbol alone is worth it...

Everyone is telling me know because your gains will die...but im sure you can do it right...

second with the above methods hairloss will not be as dramatic right...

 

[testalot]

????????

you ask people if juice will cause hair loss, i say yes, you say "no shit" then explain how you can stop/slow it down. sounds like you have all the answers bro.

 

[mike001]

Re: ????????

you ask people if juice will cause hair loss, i say yes, you say "no shit" then explain how you can stop/slow it down. sounds like you have all the answers bro.

exactly!
HighIntensity, you say you barely want to use dbol or any test at all, what the hell is the point of taking gear if your not going to use it at your best potential? is it worth taking dbol alone forever and ever for the rest of your AS career? hello no. i dont mean to sound like an ass here but you need to face the facts.
anyway, i doubt you'll listen. GOOD LUCK bro! and keep updated.

P.S. i have never known anyone to lose hair while on dbol.

 

[HighIntensity]

Mike thank you for the I don't know anyone who has ever used dbol has lost their hair...thats all I needed

Im really thinking about all of this...im not a newbie to lifting but to AS I am...Being big and gaining more size is important to me

but haveing a full head of hair, liver intact and not an overabundance of body hair is more important.

Im just asking questions from people with experince in AS...sure I have done my reading, but nothing is better than real life

This is why I wanted to do anavar, but everyone told me its a waste...plus its a pain in the ass the get.

Thought I could do I russian Dbol and be ok, make good gains ect.
maybe not...perhaps I could throw in some test...again what about the sides...

thats all im asking '

thank you

 

[MadCow1]

I've done many 4 week dbol only cycles (without clomid as this was a long time ago). Never had any hair issues (unless stacked with tren or test - I hate test - which is sacreligious on this board).

Although you would never know it from the dosages here on the internet, most users, and definitely first time users, can get great gains with <30mg daily. 15mg should be considered a minimum with 20mg a good average and 25mg on the high side.

30mg is a relatively high dose of this very effective drug when talking about non-heavy steroid users. I know of many very successful lifters who never exceeded 25mg - myself included - I don't think you need to start this high esp. with good genetics (unless your receptors absolutely suck).

I can gain with 15mg daily - I would suggest going the 20mg route.

Some advice on dbol only - this is the drug that gave rise to tapering that often misapplied concept that is so maligned on this board. You should use it with this drug. Do 4 weeks at 15-25mg (wherever you feel you should start) and then begin tapering down over 10-12 days. I go as low as 5mg EOD in the AM. You will not experience any performance crash and loss of gains is greatly mitigated, although you should expect to lose some water in toward the end.

If you choose to go this route (and personally I think you are jonesing since you can't get the anavar - this drug is on the other extreme and doesn't make a lot of sense for you) you will be successful.

 

[Gymbob]

Ive been on dbol a week and ive been growing more hair around my upper back\trap area, it grew there before its just getting more pronounced with the dbol.

Thats interesting about the tapering madcow, although you would be going on for nearly 6 weeks with the tapering, were the results much more noticable tapering it?

 

[PANTS]

High Intensity, I know exactly where you're coming from. I'm really keen to try out Anavar due to its less sides, but can only get DBOL locally and cheaply.
So I don't know what to do. Try the DBOL and risk the sides, or wait for some Winny or Anavar to turn up!
Good Luck.

 

[MadCow1]

Ive been on dbol a week and ive been growing more hair around my upper back\trap area, it grew there before its just getting more pronounced with the dbol.

Thats interesting about the tapering madcow, although you would be going on for nearly 6 weeks with the tapering, were the results much more noticable tapering it?

Generally you'll continue to gain or at least refine some of your gains and harden a bit during the taper as the water begins to subside. If using clomid you could shorten the taper to a degree and not prolong it but I wouldn't drop dbol completely until under 10mg ED. Going from 30mg or 50mg to zero causes most of the gain retention issues or the big hickup in a stack when it's dropped.

 

[Gymbob]

Right, so you should really start tapering at about the start of week 4 then gradually taper down for the next week or so?

thanks.

 

[MadCow1]

Correct, although generally a longer tapering period will lengthen the cycle beyond 4 weeks so if you want 4 weeks at a chosen dosage plan on extending 10-12 days beyond.

 

[Gymbob]

Thanks mate i think i'll give that a try

 

[HighIntensity]

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