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The D-bol Bridge debate...

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There has been a lot of back and forth on this issue. The threory is that 10mg of D-bol taken at once will increase your average testosterone level by 5 times and decrease your endogeneous cosrtisone by 50-70%.

http://www.fitnessgeared.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7513&perpage=35&pagenumber=1

Posted by Fonz,"The reason why dianabol is a good choice for a bridge is that its VERY anti-catabolic. It also dopaminergic. Giving you the benefits of increased CNS strength modulation by its androgenic mode of action. Androgens, in case you don know, increase neuro-muscular function, thus STRENGTH".

Fonz: "The body will be partially fooled. It will not entirely detect the increased levels of testosterone (above the normal test sipke), thus LH function WILL REMAIN only partially(Very little actually) suppressed.

In other words, he is "piggy-backing" an extra dose of testosterone on top of the endogeneously reduced one,
thus creating an "inflated" test spike".

Fonz:"The bridge is for 2 purposes:

1. To go from one cycle to the next letting your body recover from super-physiological levels of AAS. Your HPTA will partially recover too, but since you're going to start another cycle this is un-important. But at least its a semi-break. And little/no muscle loss will occurr.

In contrast to this notion Big Cat has the following to say,"When levels are supressed and you introduce an HPTA blocking factor of any kind, higher than normal physiological levels (achieved with Dbol on less than 5mg) you will keep levels supressed, if you perchance don't supress them even more. Only when levels of estrogen and androgen binding are significantly low (on both counts) will levels return to normal due to cessation of negative feedback".

Big Cat seems to reference studies and science that indicates this is a myth yet Fonz and others who have actually done this claim the opposite. For those of you who have actually done a D-bol bridge, what were the results? Was it worth it?
 
Juice Authority said:
There has been a lot of back and forth on this issue. The threory is that 10mg of D-bol taken at once will increase your average testosterone level by 5 times and decrease your endogeneous cosrtisone by 50-70%.

http://www.fitnessgeared.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7513&perpage=35&pagenumber=1

Posted by Fonz,"The reason why dianabol is a good choice for a bridge is that its VERY anti-catabolic. It also dopaminergic. Giving you the benefits of increased CNS strength modulation by its androgenic mode of action. Androgens, in case you don know, increase neuro-muscular function, thus STRENGTH".

Fonz: "The body will be partially fooled. It will not entirely detect the increased levels of testosterone (above the normal test sipke), thus LH function WILL REMAIN only partially(Very little actually) suppressed.

In other words, he is "piggy-backing" an extra dose of testosterone on top of the endogeneously reduced one,
thus creating an "inflated" test spike".

Fonz:"The bridge is for 2 purposes:

1. To go from one cycle to the next letting your body recover from super-physiological levels of AAS. Your HPTA will partially recover too, but since you're going to start another cycle this is un-important. But at least its a semi-break. And little/no muscle loss will occurr.

I agree with Fonz..I have done it.
 
This is one of those cases where you're going to have to rely on REAL WORLD results.

When i first looked at the AM Dball study, I thought the guy was nuts.

Everything I knew bio-chemically wise told me it couldn't work.

But, as people began to try it and get blood tests done, it began to dawn on the BB'ing community that it WORKED for most people.

Same thing w/ DNP.

People thought I was out of my mind when i first suggested it.
A pesticide? (Is he nuts? etc..etc...) were the normal answers.
And now we know it works IF DONE PROPERLY.

PROPERLY in the AM dball case is taking the Dball in accordance with your bodies OWN circadian Rythm.

If you screw your circadian rythm up, the bridge will not work.

Its really that simple.

Fonz
 
Zoomster said:
Once again...real world over theory.

Agreed. The purpose of this thread was not to theorize or debate who's right and who's wrong but to get feedback from people who have actually done it.
 
Juice Authority said:


Agreed. The purpose of this thread was not to theorize or debate who's right and who's wrong but to get feedback from people who have actually done it.

There was a very long thread on this a few months ago.


What i want to know, FONZ- is if you recommend taking the bridge at 7 or 8 am or whenever it is that you wake up?
 
i ran dbol for eight weeks between my last cycle and the one i just finished. now i plan on doing 10mg ed again for eight weeks. it worked very well for me, strength and size stayed very steady. my nuts even came back around week four of the dbol. i agree that doing a dbol bridge isnt really coming off and blah blah blah but for those of us that dont really want to come off i think it is a much needed break.
foo
 
chanmanfoo said:
i ran dbol for eight weeks between my last cycle and the one i just finished. now i plan on doing 10mg ed again for eight weeks. it worked very well for me, strength and size stayed very steady. my nuts even came back around week four of the dbol. i agree that doing a dbol bridge isnt really coming off and blah blah blah but for those of us that dont really want to come off i think it is a much needed break.
foo

Did you do it in conjunction with Clomid and other anti-e's between cycles?
 
Lift Chief said:


There was a very long thread on this a few months ago.


What i want to know, FONZ- is if you recommend taking the bridge at 7 or 8 am or whenever it is that you wake up?

Whenever you wake up.

Just make sure its always AT THE SAME TIME for the duration of the bridge.

I know some guys who take the 10mg at 7AM, then the next day at 12AM, then the next at 10AM.

That is the WRONG WAY. And hence why it doesn't work for some people.

It has to be taken UPON awakening at roughly the same time every day. Right on cue with your bodies endocrinological circadian rythm.

So, if you wake up at 7AM. Try to take it between 7:00 and 7:30
every day.

Fonz
 
Fonz said:


Whenever you wake up.

Just make sure its always AT THE SAME TIME for the duration of the bridge.

I know some guys who take the 10mg at 7AM, then the next day at 12AM, then the next at 10AM.

That is the WRONG WAY. And hence why it doesn't work for some people.

It has to be taken UPON awakening at roughly the same time every day. Right on cue with your bodies endocrinological circadian rythm.

So, if you wake up at 7AM. Try to take it between 7:00 and 7:30
every day.

Fonz

Do you recommend doing this in conjunction with clomid therapy?
 
Juice Authority said:


Did you do it in conjunction with Clomid and other anti-e's between cycles?
nothing bro. i still have some clomid i bought i dont know how long ago but have yet to use it. i just dont seem to need it. i have ended several cycles (low dose test 400/750mg) and have never had any major crash besides the sad feeling i get when i dont have something to shoot.
foo
 
Juice Authority said:


Do you recommend doing this in conjunction with clomid therapy?

The dball bridge was meant to be run with ALL the other post-cycle ancilliaries.

It was an addition to the post-cycle HPTA recovery regimen
designed to minimize muscle loss.

The old regimens just simply didn't cut it....you always lost muscle.

FOnz
 
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