"The chances of devloping bitch tits from 1-AD is essential zero"

[ThePolishHammer]

I read this on a site that sells the stuff. Is this true? It claims 1-AD does not aromotize into estrogen as other PH's do. So does this mean i can take the shit and not worry about my balls shrinking, my sex drive getting fucked with or my test levels shutting down afterwards?

 

[young guns]

it not converting to estrogen has no bearing on whether it will shut down test prodcution. i've seen many people complain it shuts them down pretty hard.

what you don't have to worry as much about since it doesn't aromatize is gyno and water retention

some people take 4-ad with it if they have problems with sex drive or feel sluggish due to low estrogen levels

 

[pa1ad]

I read this on a site that sells the stuff. Is this true? It claims 1-AD does not aromotize into estrogen as other PH's do. So does this mean i can take the shit and not worry about my balls shrinking, my sex drive getting fucked with or my test levels shutting down afterwards?

the chances of developing gyno while on a cycle of 1-ad alone is very small. After your cycle though there is a period of estrogen/testosterone imbalance during which the chance for developing some gyno is present, but still not great

 

[ThePolishHammer]

so does 4ad aromotize into estrogen. and if i devlop bitch tits will they eventually go away? and do my test levels ever completely normalize again?
newbie questions i know, but like i said, im new at this game.

 

[young guns]

yes 4-ad aromatizes

no, if you get gyno (as in fibrous tissue) it won't go away. if you get signs of it (itchy burning puffy nips), and stop use of the ph, you may not develop real gyno, but like pa said, there would be a period of test/estrogen imbalace so gyno can't be ruled out completely.

and yes, your hormones will normalize again. in some people it happens faster than others, but as long as you cycle the ph's, not using them for ridiculously long periods of time (most people don't use them for more than 8 weeks continuoulsy), and giving your body enough time off in between cycles, your body will normalize it's own hormones.

 

[eastarr69]

4 ad can give you some gyno...1 ad will not, and i have found on my 1ad, there was minimal nut shrinkage, but that fuckin sack like to jam them up into gut sometimes...the vpx decavar i am taking, blows 1ad out the water...plus keeps me lean, but diet helps with that anyhow and zippo on water retention...

E

 

[Lumberg]

4 ad can aromatize. try having some Letrozole on hand in case you start retaining too much water.

JC

 

[fhg43]

I read this on a site that sells the stuff. Is this true? It claims 1-AD does not aromotize into estrogen as other PH's do. So does this mean i can take the shit and not worry about my balls shrinking, my sex drive getting fucked with or my test levels shutting down afterwards?

Here's the deal-
1) No gyno 1-AD does NOT aromatize to estrogen
2) Balls do shrink
3) For many sex drive, libido decreases
4) You don't bloat
5) You gain lots of muscle (I gained 10lbs WITHOUT trying)
6) You get stronger

Do you need help getting started after it?
Yes

Can you have problems post cycle?
Of course-your hormones are all outta whack and very low I might add

What should I do?
Try 6-OXO. Pat makes good stuff.

Will my test levels be screwed up post-cycle?
Of course. When taking any AAS or PH you are replacing the natural hormones your body makes so your body significantly reduces its normal production. So after you stop your cycle, your body's levels are very low. gradually they return to normal but this may be 6wks after you complete your cycle. So to speed recovery clomid and anti-e's may be helpful. Peolpe also use HCG and tamoxifen. Research what you think is best for you and your purposes.

I've used 1-AD and it works. Plus I've researched various cycles dosages, side effects, recovery protocols etc... It affects people differently. Some don't report sex drive problems. Some people report other sides like: prostate irritation, urinary irriatation, lethargy and fatigue, milky discharge when dehydrated, etc...

So there is a 1_AD primer-anymore ????s

FHG

 

[ASALT]

Re: Re: "The chances of devloping bitch tits from 1-AD is essential zero"

the chances of developing gyno while on a cycle of 1-ad alone is very small. After your cycle though there is a period of estrogen/testosterone imbalance during which the chance for developing some gyno is present, but still not great

Does 6-oxo help prevent this post cycle possibility?

 

[fhg43]

Re: Re: Re: "The chances of devloping bitch tits from 1-AD is essential zero"

Does 6-oxo help prevent this post cycle possibility?

pa1ad would know best, but I'll jump in with my $.02-

Yes it should help. However you should taper your 6-OXO.

Why?

Well current theory is that using an aromatase inhibitor works but the body to continues produce a lot of aromatase via feedback (ie you still have estrogen in you so you need aromatase, but the 6-OXO or any aromatase inhibitor stops aromatase not estrogen, so your body continues to make aromatase in response to the levels of estrogen). So you need to taper off the aromatase inhibitor rather than stop cold.

I was going to run a 20 day 6-OXO cycle like this:
Day 1= 900mg
Day 2-3= 600mg
Day 4-12= 300mg
Day 13-16= 200mg
Day 17-20= 100mg

I also thought about buying more 6-OXO and running higher doses. Like adding 100mg on days 4-18. We'll see.

PA will be the most knowledgeable on the product. I think it looks promising.

FHG