the best way to work with long esters...

[Keep it beefy]

How to set up your AS cycle:

i am of the belief that you should get blood values very high (or as high as you want) as quickly as possible, and then getting them to drop as quickly as possible when you decide to come off.

after a cycle with something like sust, deca, test enan., eq, etc. (something with a longer half life) you have a period of a few weeks post cycle when you're not getting the gains any more, but you're not allowing your body to recover its natural test values.

therefore, rather than running something like like the above until the last week, i'd cut it out midcycle (week 4-6 perhaps), and replace it with something like test suspension or prop. (especially if you're running test to begin with), winny, anavar, halo etc. something with a short half life, so that you can effectively drop the cycle, and start post cycle therapy immediately, rather than this 3-4 weeks of waiting crap. it's also probably better on your hpta to not be shut down as long.

for example:

deca / dbol / test. prop. / winny

1. 1200 / 30 ed / 0 / 0
2. 1200 / 30 ed / 0 / 0
3. 600 / 30 ed / 0 / 0
4. 600 / 30 ed / 0 / 0
5. 600 / 0 / 0 / 50 ed
6. 0 / 0 / 600 / 50 ed
7. 0 / 0 / 600 / 50 ed
8. 0 / 0 / 600 / 50 ed
9. clomid
10.clomid (continue further if you want)

with something like this cycle (purely an example), you are shut down for less time, and you might be able to retain more of your gains.

 

[Keep it beefy]

in case anyone wanted to see it

 

[nautica]

I agree. Or you could start with prop move to a long ester and then end with prop. Kinda tricky but if you did it right it would work best.

Nautica

 

[Keep it beefy]

true, but the more you switch up esters, the more you fluctuate blood levels. ive heard from a powerlifter who says that he went by this method, except he only went the first 4 weeks on long esters before switching to short esters for the last 3 weeks. he was all for: get in, blow yourself away, and get out before you fuck yourself over

 

[MaxBiceps]

I did something like what you're talking my last cycle. I took 600 mgs EQ, 200mgs Test Cyp for eight weeks then skipped week nine and used 20 mgs of dbol for 3 weeks, then jumped into clomid therapy immediately after. Very happy with the results, haven't lost a pound.