the best thing to run with dbol

[PinCushin]

i was thinking of running dbol/test/anavar.
wk1-8 dbol 25mg/day
wk1-8 test 500mg/wk
wk1-12 anavar 35mg/day

am very prone to gyno so thought about 20mg/nolva/day. (during the entire cycle to 3wks after. that 3rd wk starting clomid for another 4wks) let me know what you guys think of that.

another Q is that during this cycle i plan on being on a very clean diet (chicken/fish/etc.) along w/lots of protein shakes and water. could i expect a good deal of lean muscle to be added and not a lot of bloat? thanks a lot for the help fellas.

 

[Citruscide]

So... what exactly are your goals other than lean muscle + no bloat?

What kind of test? and stats?

C-ditty

 

[PinCushin]

6'1'' 210lbs 12%bf
would like to be around 240lbs 10-12%bf by the end of summer. if i could get even lower bf% that would be great. any advice more than welcome.

 

[DeepZenPill]

I would not recommend running the dbol with the anavar. That's two 17aa. You could just drop the var (it would make the cycle a hell of a lot cheaper) and just run the dbol and test. Throw in some aromatase inhibitor like liquidex and that will help minimize the bloat.

If you're very prone to gyno and you're using aromatizing androgens, anavar might actually increase the risk of gyno. It increases IGF-1 which will contribute to breast tissue growth. It even happened to me when I added in var to my EQ cycle, I had to jump on nolva and get a hold of some arimidex. This risk is often overlooked because of its rarity, but it doesn't hurt to consider it.

 

[PinCushin]

thanks a lot deep and citricide....thats great help...anyone else? what do you think about 20mg of a-dex/day + 20mgs of nolva/day?

 

[Citruscide]

Honestly, when I ran Dbol... I ran it with Deca + Cyp. Had great gains... and they seemed to work well together.

If you are more toward the beginning side of anabolic use, I'd say around 30mg/day... more experienced users are up to around 50mg (some at 100!!!!). For that kind of gains... I would suggest 30mg dbol daily for 4-5 weeks. 300mg deca and 400mg test. ... if you are more experienced, you could up the test to 600+... I never do more than 300mg deca a week.

C-ditty

 

[Sergio Garcia]

Citruscide, what is your opinion on tren? Also, have you used the tren manufactured from powder form? Thanks

 

[Latamier]

Definately drop the var and pick up some LFC tren and run it at 75-100mg/EOD. This would make for a very good cycle.

 

[DeepZenPill]

thanks a lot deep and citricide....thats great help...anyone else? what do you think about 20mg of a-dex/day + 20mgs of nolva/day?

20mg of a-dex a day would be insanely expensive, and a waste. You'll only need 1mg of adex a day max with this cycle. You could even go down to .5mg a day, but 1mg would be safer if you're very prone to gyno like you said. Don't use the nolva unless you start seeing signs of gyno, otherwise it's unnecessary. If gyno starts developing then go on 20mg a day.

 

[PinCushin]

thanks a lot everyone. great advice. i think my a-dex's are .5/tab. i just couldnt remember...screw up on my part. i am fairly new to the game...i've had 3 cycles...first one test/dbol great gains. its kind of like the girl that you first had sex with. youll always remember her and have a thing for her...