Thanks For The Gyno All You Guys!

[Horny]

SO all I here on this board is how there is no difference in sides between 250mg test and 1000 mg test. All I here is how wonderful Arimidex will prevent all gyno from ever happening, ever!. All I hear is how there is no point in taking 250mg when you can take 750 or a gram. All I hear is dam BULSHIT form people who don't know what the hell they are talking about!
I have done a few cycles in the past keeping the dosage of test to 250mg-500 and loving the results. Anyways, I spent a couple of weeks reading this board and I was convinced that there would be no problem taking up to a gram if proper antiestrogens were used, just spectaclular more results. After all, this is what all these so called experts told me. I would even read posts where guys were flamed for not using enough test, and that they were stupid and dumb to think that more problems would result if they used more as long as it was a gram or under. GUys would become enraged if someone claimed that 1000mg would produce side effects if estrogen blockers were used.
Well I upped the dosage to a gram, kept up witht the 1mg arimidex a day and had the nolva on hand. TWO DAYS LATER THE PAIN IN MY NIPPLES BECOMES UNBEARABLE! I TAKE 2MG ARIMDIEX A DAY, 3MG, ADD THE NOLVA, TAKE 4MG, ONE DAY EVEN 5mg! THE PAIN IS AWFUL AND IT LASTS FOR 2 DAM FULL WEEKS. NOTHING WILL STOP IT. BURNING, ITCHING, ACHING, TWO LITTLE ROCKS INSIDE MY NIPPLES GRINDING TOGETHER PAIN. WELL NOW I GOT BIG NIPPLES THE SIZE OF DINNER PLATES AND NICE FLABBY FLESH UNEDRNEATH MY PECS. IT MAKES ME FEEL EVEN BETTER TO KNOW IT WAS ALL WELL WORTH THE SMALL FORTUNE I SPENT ON ARIMIDEX. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR EXPERT KNOWLEDGE AND ADVICE ALL. YOU SERVED ME WELL.

 

[atwa]

sorry to hear that bro.

 

[mdd]

bro, the same thing happened to me, when i was looking for serious info on my cycle, which i'm starting tomarrow. there are alot of people on this board that have no idea what their talking about (on the other hand, there are some VERY knowledgable people here also) you just ogtta listen to the right ones dude i had a countless amount of people tell me the amount of sus i will be taking wouldnt do shit for me. i recommend emailing a mod whenever you have a Q your not serious about bro, 2THICK helped me out a ton.

remember, its not always the amount of gear that makes the biggest difference, its the effort in the gym and your clean calorie intake that has the biggest impact! thats one thing i learned from this board!!

 

[Green]

no ones fault but yours!!!

Sorry bro but you made the decision to change "your" ways not anyone else. If what you were doing was so great why did you change things?How long were you on a gram before symptoms started? Are you sure your anti-est.'s are real? Did you throw in a bit of winny to help? If you don't like the advice you get here, be gone. I'm so sick and tired of people blaminig everyone esle for their own misteaks. You fucked up, live with it.

 

[wierdhappennings]

green, what do you mean by throwing in winny to help.

 

[Horny]

I only used one week's worth of a gram.
It is a mild case of gyno and the excess tissue has alread started to go away. The problem is that I am left with nipples that are the size of half dollars. They used to be about the sixe of a quarter, a size I feel is much more appropriate. ANyways I look at lots of bodybuilders and I am realizing that this is an acceptable amount of gyno to mosrt guys as most guys are sporting nipps about this big. THey really are not good looking though. I am going to get surgery to make them smaller if ever I can.

 

[kid]

blame yourself and not us!

dude, we are just here trying to help. we actually did not brain wash you. you made the decisoin on your own. if we told you to jam 100mgs a week into you r penis and it would grow, don't tell me that you would have done it? i guess learn from your mistakes!

 

[MadCow1]

Some here are way overzealous with dosages. I think using less is better and keeping cycles short is also good. Getting the most out of it is the key - training and diet. I lost some hair once from listening to an idiot when I knew better (test again was the culprit) didn't result in supperior gains either just a disproportionate amount of sides.

Sorry about your accident. I think you'll be fine - this type of mild case happens to a lot of guys (just don't repeat again). If it ain't broke, don't fix.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

you got gyno..... TWO DAYS after upping your dosage?

WHAT DID YOU TAKE A GRAM OF SUSPENSION ON DAY 1?

amusing...........


peace

 

[vinnie]

sorry to hear about that man.
you know everyone is different. people can only give advice about their own experiences and the rules may not apply for everyone. good luck to you.

 

[TxLonghorn]

Well, just because this happened to you doesn't mean that what they are saying is necessarily wrong. People can go into anaphylactic shock by taking aspirin or penicillin. That doesn't mean that penicillin doesn't work, just that for whatever reason, their body does not respond well to it.

You might be exceptionally prone to gyno, or you might just not respond well to antiestrogens. Whatever, everybody is different. That is why there is not just one way to work out, correct? I am sure you have bodyparts that look good and some that don't. That does not mean that everybody is the same.

But seriously, you might want to up the test a little to just under 2 grams/week. Otherwise, you are just a puss.

lol

 

[2Thick]

This is a great illustration of why you should keep your dosages moderate until you know how your body will react. That is why you should start low and work your way up. I am sorry that someone had to suffer but hopefully his pain will teach other people how not to dosage your cycle.

 

[Slopain]

This post smells like fish.

 

[dahmer]

You have no one to blame but yourself. YOU chose to do gear, YOU chose to up the dose. YOU can now deal with it.

 

[Stew Meat]

Slo and Macro, I wholeheartedly agree.

I'm gonna have to go on and call bullshit on that one...
There's no way in hell there would be enough active testosterone in his body to convert to a high enough percentage of estrogen to cause immediate gyno. Its not like he injected the whole 1g at one time...



-Stew

 

[giantset]

I have to agree that this sounds like bs to me. How could your body convert the test to estrogen fast enough to experience gyno in the first week unless it was suspension like macro said. Arimidex is fairly fast acting and it still takes around 48 hours to reach full effect so you shouldn't get pissy about it after only a few days. If you still get gyno on 1mg Arimidex, and 40mg of nolvadex then you need to either a) have the glands in your nipples removed or b) stay away from aromatising steroids. If this is for real, then I am sorry you developed gyno but you have to take responsibility for the drugs you take.

giantset

 

[el cubano]

BS

First, anyone who says that the sides from 1000mg of test aren't worse than 250mg is an idiot and so are you for listening to them. Next, gyno after two days? You must be 16yrs old, right!

 

[RADAR]

I agree this post smells!!! But sorry guy all the info you needed is in here all you had to do is some research which we preach all the time.

 

[Magda]

Gee, that unbearable pain and condition you described sounds just like what every woman has to go through if she decides to breast feed.

 

[Pump101]

Stop Crying

 

[Big Johnson]

LISTEN TO ME!

TAKE 2 GRAMS OF DECCA AND 20 ANADROL IMMEDIATELY TO GET RID OF THE GYNO!

DO I HAVE TO EVEN SAY "JUST KIDDING?" I GUESS I BETTER...

 

[Horny]

I think I am just very prone to gyno. AL my sisters, my aunts and my grandparents got huge tits. My dad has even got the stuff and he never roided.
I was already on for 3 weeks straight of 500mg testoviron when I upped the dosage. This was the 4th week when I shot this stuff. I shot 2 amps of testoviron 250mg on Thursday and then I shot the other two on saturday. This is testosterone enanthate. Were these shots not spaced far enough apart?
I am not blaming everyone on ths board for my gyno. I blame myself 100 percent for it. I am just pissed at a couple of guys who preach who don't know what the hell they arer talking about. You can't tell me that there aren't a whole lot of 19-21 year olds on this board who have only done 1,2 or 3 half ass cyles and like to pretend that they are seasoned vets to the juice game. These are the guys who love their stars and are crying about losing them. ITs like they actualy beleive that in real life they are pro body builders if they make 600 posts or more on this board.
Stew Meat, Giantset, and all you other guys who don't think testosterone enanthate kicks in right away, you are very wrong. I have talked to a doctor expert about this and he says that testosterone enanthate produces peak blood levels in 36 hours. This stuff is not sustanon. I don't know why so many guys think that all test esters except for proprionate are like sustanon. 2-3 days later is exactly when peak estrogen levels would hit.
Anyways, I don't really got the gyno that bad. As I said my nips are now about the size of half dollars if I stretch them out as much as possible with my fingers. I guess they actually used to be on the small size of normal and now they are on the very large size of normal. Its not like I got actuall boobs yet or anything.

 

[Horny]

you got gyno..... TWO DAYS after upping your dosage?

WHAT DID YOU TAKE A GRAM OF SUSPENSION ON DAY 1?

amusing...........


peace

500mgs on day 1 aND 3. Is this not spread far enough apart?

 

[SHREDDED WHEAT]

A Little candlewax on the nipples will help sooth the pain........J/K bro, sorry to hear that. I wouldn't wish gyno on anyone. Everyone's gentics are different, so don't take everything people say to heart.