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Do I have to take some kind of testosterone with deca? I keep reading stuff about a low sex drive on deca..... Does this always happen?
Testosterone With Deca a MUST?
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welcome to the board. need to hear some stats.
do not run Deca as a first cycle. gotta learn the ABC's of steroids before running something like deca.
the deca dick is caused by increased prolactin problems and a stubborn ester that will linger for weeks after your finish.. this is why its crucial you run anti-prolactin, AI, and know how and what a PCT is. until you understand what those are and how to control the situation then steer clear of deca.
do not run Deca as a first cycle. gotta learn the ABC's of steroids before running something like deca.
the deca dick is caused by increased prolactin problems and a stubborn ester that will linger for weeks after your finish.. this is why its crucial you run anti-prolactin, AI, and know how and what a PCT is. until you understand what those are and how to control the situation then steer clear of deca.
Iron mike 15
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Deca was what was available... I understand I need post cycle therapy like novladex but i got it also bc of low side effects.." I do have some dbol to anadrol I could take with it..... I did a cycle before of just anadrol.....
iron mike
you should not be playing with steroids. who the hell in there right mind does a adrol cycle only?
then loose every thing point less.
here look at my cycle I am in wk 3 of a 15 wk cycle. your cycle should look like this.
1-15 test c 750mg wk
1-13 deca 450mg wk
1-4 tbol 70mg ed
10-15 winny 70mg ed
3-16 hcg 500iu 2x wk
AI on hand are Letro,Adex,Aromasin
PCT
clom 100/100/50/50mg
nolva 40/40/20/20mg
good luck with your cycle bro.
you should not be playing with steroids. who the hell in there right mind does a adrol cycle only?
then loose every thing point less.
here look at my cycle I am in wk 3 of a 15 wk cycle. your cycle should look like this.
1-15 test c 750mg wk
1-13 deca 450mg wk
1-4 tbol 70mg ed
10-15 winny 70mg ed
3-16 hcg 500iu 2x wk
AI on hand are Letro,Adex,Aromasin
PCT
clom 100/100/50/50mg
nolva 40/40/20/20mg
good luck with your cycle bro.
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Pound4PoundAAS
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Nolvadex and 19 nor steroids shouldn't be run together. You might have even more prolactin problems
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Iron mike 15
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Just looking for help... Don't need sarcasm........all I have is deca,anadrol,and dbol...what should I do?
Want some serious answers give some stats, age, height, weight, body fat, and # of years working out.
Iron mike 15
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I'm 33 5-7" 150lbs"...... Been working out for 15 years..... Body fat round 10%
kevvy83
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What you should do is get a test, and try a test only cycle first off to see how you respond, and take it from there.
All In a Year
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Say goodbye to your dick if you don't run test with deca. And never use nolva with or for pct after deca... It can cause gyno.
Iron mike 15
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I'm trying to get test now.... I'd like to take it with the deca since I already spent money on deca.... Donut use one needle and take deca and test in same shot? What do I take for pct if nolva is no good? What others are there?
Iron mike 15
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Did u get my stats? 33yrs old 5-7" 150lbs about 10% body fat..... Been lifting for 15 years or so......
Iron mike 15
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Diet...... I try to eat fruits and Vegas a few times a day.... I'm doing 3 protein shakes a day... One which I add weight gainer too..... I try to stick with chicken, fish, turkey meat.... Round four meals a day right now.... Workouts are an hour a day at 5:30 every morning... I stick to 8-10 rep range.... I was out for last 4 months with shattered collar bone this is my 3 week back... So I'm slowly going up in weights... Slowly adding more protein ans food during the day..... It's always been very difficult for me to put on weight.... Being hurt for 3 months all I did was sit around and eat and I still lost almost 20 lbs..... I appreciate ur help!, thank u for ur time.... I'm also looking for more info on AI ? I also heard don't take nolva as a pct with deca.....thank u!,
Iron mike 15
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I've been doing a lot of reading on deca.... It seems that in low does's say 300-400 a week side effects like deca dick don't occur very often! I was thinking of using 300 a week...... What do u think? Maybe run anadrol with it for the first 3 weeks..... While following ur bulking diet?
^^^ not sure where you read that but that is a hefty dose of deca for a guy your size. and yes you will crash hard after on that dosage. considering you do not know how to pct or understand what prolactin is. i highly encourage you to forget about AAS right now and continue to research and stay natty for the next year.
you don't need AAS right now. you need to learn how to eat and workout first. 150 pounders shouldn't be juicing.
keeping on trying to convince me to give you the green light is like convincing me that you should put your life savings on the roulette wheel. i'm never gonna say to do it nor is anyone on this forum.
if you do decide to run deca as a first cycle you will regret it, its not for newbs.
you don't need AAS right now. you need to learn how to eat and workout first. 150 pounders shouldn't be juicing.
keeping on trying to convince me to give you the green light is like convincing me that you should put your life savings on the roulette wheel. i'm never gonna say to do it nor is anyone on this forum.
if you do decide to run deca as a first cycle you will regret it, its not for newbs.
Pound4PoundAAS
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Seriously, you are not ready for AAS. You might not hear what you wanted to hear but until you actually devote yourself to gaining weight naturally, no one will help you. If you can't diet and exercise correctly then you would just be wasting time and money on ananolics. Plus, Steve is right, deca should not be used as a first cycle.
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Iron mike 15
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I have devoted years to working out.... I actually have a good build.... Just want to get a tad bigger... Get the sleeves a little tighter.... I know what I'm doing in the gym... There are very few pound for pound that are stronger then me.... But adding a little more size will help! Especially being in law enforcement! How about 100 a week on deca?
JuiceIsMyFriend
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Why don't you get some n2bulk and take it post workout and see where that gets you? Also all your gonna do is put on water weight then lose it when you cut the deca. Why get big fast then a couple months later be right where you were to start? Go slow and steady and forget the deca. Trust me. I regret running it before I knew anything about aas just because all my bros said it was great. It's great when you know what your doing with it. Otherwise stay away from it.
Iron Warrior707
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You've been working out for 15 years and you are only 150lb at 5'7?? You serious bro??
I was 5'8 170 after 8 month of working out at 13% bf, 3 years later im now 5'9 234lb around 22% bf, and im natural, i have taken very light cycle of test and var in the past but they never helped me to get results because i was stupid and did everything wrong, had to start from scratch..
Here's what i look like with no roids 100% natural and i'll probably never ever take roids again.. YOU DONT NEED STEROIDS TO GET BIG, YOU NEED HARD WOK AND DEDICATION..
I was 5'8 170 after 8 month of working out at 13% bf, 3 years later im now 5'9 234lb around 22% bf, and im natural, i have taken very light cycle of test and var in the past but they never helped me to get results because i was stupid and did everything wrong, had to start from scratch..
Here's what i look like with no roids 100% natural and i'll probably never ever take roids again.. YOU DONT NEED STEROIDS TO GET BIG, YOU NEED HARD WOK AND DEDICATION..
TheRippedReverend
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Oh, my...... Where do we start?
Deca and Nolva ummmmm........ Ur dick, liver, and the milk that will come out of your titties will hate you.
Do some research plz.... We are here to help but you need to really do some heavy research brotha
And then dbol and adrol? Oh weeeeezeeeeeeeeeeee fuuuuuuuuuu
Can i pull the trigget now?
You need a treadmill bro
TheRippedReverend
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Bro who ever recomended aas to you and esp. those compounds is a dick!
Bro diet and cardio = ur bff!
Your more like 38% bf not being an ass
Iron Warrior707
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Is that supposed to be an insult?
Iron Warrior707
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No one rec aas to me, i dont take roids anymore that was 3 years ago.. And i had my bf tested it was 22%, maybe it was 1-2 digit up and down give or take, Also i was very bloated from drinking almost 2 gallons of water and 600g of carbs, my bw is 7lb lighter and my waist is 4" smaller in the morning without food and water..
Now let see your pic when you were natural..
Sinister Minister
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+1 and some gear...
Sinister Minister
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Bro, I think u and I both know that your physique is not the type u intended for. If youre shooting for the power lifter / keg with legs then your on track. You should change a whole up with your routine and cut all that bf off then reassess your goals after u see how much muscle u actually have.
Iron Warrior707
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Atleast your not one of those guys who try to bring me down.. This is the look i like, i dont like that skinny 6pack shit, i mean i wanna be ripped and have abs but i dont want to sacrifice the size, so i might as well stick with this physique, everyone is diff, and we have diff goals..
I can get down to a ripped 195-200 but i dont like it, i wanna be ripped at 230 but i guess its impossible for a natural..
Sinister Minister
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No, I'm not here to bring anyone down but I will tell u and everyone the truth and exactly how I feel! Everyone comes here for advice and critiques. If u post your pic then please be ready to hear the truth whether it's what u wanna hear or not! BUT... If that's the look you're going for then go for it... Do what makes u happy! Keep this in mind as well I'm 5'10 250lbs man... I'm not the skinny type but I'm pretty lean for 250 so it's always possible! If u choose to stay natty then that's cool! I choose to use gear but run it the correct way so different paths but the same goals! Best of luck bro! Hit me if u need anything!
Iron Warrior707
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5'10 250 is pretty huge man.. I was thinking about using gear, and i know for a damn fact with the juice i could be 245+ at 12-14%bf, but i refused to do it, since i came this long without roids and i dont compete i think it would be pretty stupid to juice just for vanity or to show off that i can bench 500lb..
What i wanna know is do you think its realistic to be 5"9 235 at 10% bf witohut roids, i dont care how long it'll take me im willing to put in the work, and sacrifice my life.. Is this possible? btw im only 22 going 23 next month, so i have plenty of time..
TheRippedReverend
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No theres a guy on here that talks about being all nattty stevesmi knows of this i remember it was the same name as you but i dont know bout the 707. Was asking u if you were him.
If ur thinking about those two compounds its all bad imo but i just only have 15 years of experiance so.... Imo i would diet get down to 15% and ur def not 22% rite now. Jus my two cents not trollin trying to help i once was in the same boat as you
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You are 150 lbs and probably can't even squat 315 to parallel... waste of gear.
Also test only would be my prefered first cycle for a noob or maybe with a little dbol. My first was sust/deca (250/200mg a week respectively), but in retrospect I would have gotten better gains and spent a little less money on just 500mg of test a week.
Also test only would be my prefered first cycle for a noob or maybe with a little dbol. My first was sust/deca (250/200mg a week respectively), but in retrospect I would have gotten better gains and spent a little less money on just 500mg of test a week.
Sinister Minister
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Well keep this in mind also, the gear won't get your bf down!! That's all on u and your diet and cardio. The benefit of gear in that situation is it helps u build the muscle as u shed the fat! Cutting down and keepin 100% of your muscle is damn near impossible, u will lose some in a contest prep diet and cycle. I would suggest u go crazy on the cardio and cut the carb and calories out to completely lose all water weight and as much bf as possible! If u can get down to 15% and see where your at with the muscle mass then serious debate a test only cycle to pack on more lean muscle! Sounds like u kinda have a negative outlook on gear and I'm guessing it could be from a few bad past experiences no? If not just look at it this way, if your diet and training is down solid cycling "correctly and smartly" can help u achieve your goals quicker and help u obtain some mass in a year that might honestly take u 3 completely natty! My point is if u can gain and train natty then once u get to the point of plateau the gear will take u to the next level and even further bc if your a true BB'er then u will never reach your goal, u will always want more and more and constantly compete with yourself to push on!!
Sinister Minister
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On another note; guys the OP is obviously a newb and is tryin to learn and ask the right questions! Every motherfuckin 1 of u were in that position once before so have some courtesy to at least answer the guys questions respectfully without telling him to f off and research! Sounds like he's tryin to learn before he just starts pinning shit so take it easy on the guy he's here like the rest of them to ask questions and gain some knowledge! Quit telling him to fuck off and gtfo and research. Let's try and be helpful and send him in the direction of literature or things that will help him educate himself without telling him he's too scrawny and small! He's gotta start somewhere and he's 33 yrs old for Christ sake. That's the type of treatment that sends these guys to google and they start their cycles blindly... Let's be less critical and more Insightful even to those small guys...
C0LUMB0
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^^^^^^^^ +1 Agreed 100%
C0LUMB0
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yes no one on here should jump down someones throat who is new looking for information.. this is something needto has instructed all mods to enforce, cause like you said we all were new at one time as well.. hell i remember asking some pretty dumb questions when i was a newb although i did do a lot of reading up before asking.
however the OP also needs to listen to the advice of vets on this board, and stop trying to convince us he is ready for deca for a first cycle or any AAS for that matter at 150 pounds. put on 15-20 pounds on quality muscle mass. keep researching.. and then come back and run something like a short dbol or beastdrol cycle to get his feet wet the first time. lots of newbs i've talked to have run 4 week beastdrol and have been very pleased with the results. and its not gonna shut you down like deca would.
in the end if he chooses to run the deca anyway, i can guarantee it won't be a very fun experience and it will end up setting him back and being counter productive. trust me i know new guys who ran deca the first time.. on cycle they were beasts, then off cycle they ran into gyno problems, gut and water problems, and many shrunk up like balloons after cycle and quit on the gym when they lost their motivation and libido.
Sinister Minister
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I agree 100% also, Deca by itself for anyone of that matter is a bad choice IMO!!
However keep this in mind Steve and other mods also; with this being text there's always 1000 different ways someone can interpret words thru reading he may or may not have been questioning u or anyone. Also too these newb's are new to the site and don't really know who is who and who is more knowledgable and can't grasp the types of personalities we all have as well so they are always reluctant to take the advice of new people so lets all try to bare with em... If they are standoff-ish then F em and u can't help em...
Just my 2 cents...
Sinister Minister
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i dont like your pct...
and nolva after a deca cycle ? not a good idea
He should not even be giving a newb a cycle like that to begin with?? A rookie has no fuckin business running something like that and shouldn't even be send info that extensive yet! That's what's wrong with some people why on earth would u tell a rookie his cycle should look something like that?? And why the hell the nolva with the 19nor??? That's rookie shit too
C0LUMB0
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Bro i seriously dont think you need to tell steve and other mods what to keep in mind.
We also have a very good grasp on how to welcome and advise new members. That said , your input is always welcome
Sinister Minister
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Bro i seriously dont think you need to tell steve and other mods what to keep in mind.
We also have a very good grasp on how to welcome and advise new members. That said , your input is always welcome
U know my intent was not to be critical, I too am learning more about everyone's personalities (yours as well). I'm just speaking my mind that's all! U guys are good bro's I take nothing away from that and very knowledgable. I just read the OP's word and interpreted them a lil differently than Steve did I suppose!
Release the bant button slowly bro... I always mean well
Iron mike 15
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Sinister minister..... I appreciate the thoughts and words... Yes I'm new to the gear...I'm sorry if I seem like an idiot.... In the past I did 3 weeks of anadrol with 4 weeks of dbol,and 4 weeks of Winnie v.... By buddy had the pills gave me them for free...so I did it... Put on some weight looked good... I was about 165 heaviest I've ever been...... Kept the size with the training....till I got hurt been out of the gym for 4 months...now back into it! I appreciate ur info and ur help..... You'll be happy to know I'm just going to keep the deca for a later date, if at all.... I'm trying to get test just waiting... All I have is anadrol 50 pills... And dbol 75 pills.... That's all I got.... I'm going to continue to hit the gym hard and work on my diet..... But any thoughts about taking those pills....how many? When I took the pills last time I know it was a short time, but I didn't get any acne... Not much water retention.. No mood change..... Again I know I'm small yada yada.... Just looking for help don't need to hear how stupid I am and how huge u are.... Thanks for ur time.... Esoecially sinister & stevesmi! I am listening....
C0LUMB0
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you put on water weight on the drol and dbol and would have lost those gains whether you were hurt or not.
your problem is you are not concentrating on you biggest problem.
YOUR DIET. ..!
at 150 lbs you could easily start beefing the hell up on a good bulking diet . if you would like us to put together a good diet for you then let us know...
if you are not going to get this sorted then dont waste your time and risk your health with steroids..
im asking you...not telling you
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/diet-bodybuilding/bulking-up-using-your-diet-steve-way-830603.html <<< get on this diet
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/w...ng/push-pull-legs-routine-outline-819993.html <<< get on this workout
since you were out of the gym for so long it will take time to regain your conditioning. when you do get back to 165 like you were before.. then pick up a bottle of beastdrol and run it 4 weeks at 20-30mg and run a bottle of unleashed as your PCT. its as simple as that. you don't gotta worry about ancillaries, recovery or nothing.
then after that you can look into running a test cycle and go from there
C0LUMB0
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Sinister Minister
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Bro, first thing is plan your cycles according to what u know and what u want to achieve! Never ever plan them according to what u have on hand or only what u can afford!! If it takes some extra time saving up then do it!!
I strongly believe ones first aas oil cycle should always be test alone! This way u can gage what your tolerance is and see if gear is even for u! There's soooo much involved and I've seen people like yourself want it so badly but when it came down to pinning, they couldn't do it as needed and wasted time, money and gear. Then was left with a wrong impression of aas. In that instance it is clear the gear wasn't for them.
Here's where your research comes into play! Read up on all the types of test injectables available. Become familiar with them and determine which one is best for you. I usually recommend cyp but u need to read and decide for yourself. Once u have looked into those come back with the questions u have and go from there! U gotta crawl before u walk! Slow, steady and safe will always win the race! Scrap the adrol until your familiar with it and can run it safely and knowledgable.
Make sure when u have decided on your cycle that u purchase everything at once so there's no lapses or unforeseen bumps in the road. Know what the AI is and what it's for, know what to look for if it's needed mid cycle! Have your pct down and make sure it's solid!!
Respect the gear!
Iron mike 15
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Ok just printed out your mass diet... this may sound stupid but im not familiar with beastdrol or unleashed? Are they steriods? Sorry if I sound stupid but I've never heard of them.... and 20-30mg is that a day or a week?? Again ... sorry....
beastdrol is a steroid yes. mr supps sells it.. its legal right now and sold as a 'pro hormone' but its not one thanks to a loophole but that will be changing sometime in the near future. and yes 20-30mg a day split dose would work.
unleashed is a natty test booster sold on needtobuildmuscle.com
now that you are setup on a diet and workout plan its up to you to accomplish that.. unfortunately i will not be able to do that for you, you are on your own
in 6 months you will either still be 150 pounds.. or you will be 165-170 pounds and be ready to run beastdrol to shoot you to the next level. its up to you.
unleashed is a natty test booster sold on needtobuildmuscle.com
now that you are setup on a diet and workout plan its up to you to accomplish that.. unfortunately i will not be able to do that for you, you are on your own
in 6 months you will either still be 150 pounds.. or you will be 165-170 pounds and be ready to run beastdrol to shoot you to the next level. its up to you.Iron mike 15
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I'm always looking for tips on my diet.... I get up and lift at 5:30 in the morning... Then have a protein shake so I'm not hungry for anything till 8:15 or so.... Again I have ir mass diet... Eating every 2 hours could be hard bc of work, but I'll see what I can do... Do u mind writing down a cycle to start off with that beast drool and unleashed?
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Deleted member 33117
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At this point in your diet you need to focus on a modest caloric surplus for weight gain, getting all your essential fats, micronutrients (start hammering down the fruits and veggies) and 1g of protein per lbs of body weight. You need to plug your caloric needs, based on stats, activity level etc into an online calculator and eat 500 calories over whatever number it spits out every single day. Also you need to be under a heavy bar in the squat rack x3 a week building a foundation. Heavy barbell work should make up 80-100% of your routine right now.
Sinister Minister
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Damn I hate squats...
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Deleted member 33117
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I do 15-30 sets of squats a week and that is only counting sets to parallel and over 315 (315 and down is warmup work)... and not counting front squats... those are for fun.
You have to love the squat if you want to get big or strong, bro. ;-)
danoman27
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I do 15-30 sets of squats a week and that is only counting sets to parallel and over 315 (315 and down is warmup work)... and not counting front squats... those are for fun.
You have to love the squat if you want to get big or strong, bro. ;-)
How heavy are you with front squats?
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Iron mike 15
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Ok so unleashed is sold out on ntbm but I found it on protein factory website.. Bottle looks the same but cost is cheaper..... Is it the same stuff?
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Lifetime I've done 365 on them for a few reps but had a lot of detraining when I was sick and in bed for 10 months. Back up to 245 on them with my heaviest sets but usually stick with 225 for now as I do them as a squat accessory and usually after squats.
Pound4PoundAAS
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I can't speak for the quality of another product that doesn't come from one of the board's sponsors, sorry bud.
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Sinister Minister
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Yes it is
Sinister Minister
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It is from the board sponsor dude, need2 sells his stuff outta a couple other sites as well
Iron mike 15
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Sinister.... I can't read anything u wrote....there's a black box covering all ur responses..... It says by the platinum members?
JuiceIsMyFriend
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Lol about right
Iron mike 15
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Stevesmi, I've been reading a bunch of ur past threads.... How about I pay u to be my personal trainer?lol ur not in the new York region are u? I'm amazed at how much u know and the since behind it along with the dosage..... So thank u for everything... U as well sinister!
Iron mike 15
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Not sure I can hold out for 6 months...... I ordered the beastdrol and unleashed..... I ll try to hold out maybe 3 months... Going to be hard! I know it's not the smart thing to do......
Iron mike 15
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As
Lsomwanted to get everyone's thoughts on ordering pcts on the website chemical needs.com..... Is this stuff legit? I see clomid and others.... Kinda confused as to how they can sell t?
Lsomwanted to get everyone's thoughts on ordering pcts on the website chemical needs.com..... Is this stuff legit? I see clomid and others.... Kinda confused as to how they can sell t?
nah EF pays me enough, i don't need to make extra on the side as a trainer. that ferrari i have in the driveway that EF sent me this year is enough payment.
my friends at the gym heard me pull up the other day and were like damn steve thats a phat ride.. how much did it cost? i was like nothing.. they were like dayum u serious man? i was like hell yeah i got it for free helpin guys online. they were like damn i hate you
heard RADAR got sent a lamborghini this year ... kinda messed up i get stuck with the ferrari
anyway give it a few months, follow my diet and workout.. THEN once you build up some mass jump on the beastdrol and power yourself to the next level.. thats the way to do it.. cannot take a shortcut
Sinister Minister
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nah EF pays me enough, i don't need to make extra on the side as a trainer. that ferrari i have in the driveway that EF sent me this year is enough payment.
my friends at the gym heard me pull up the other day and were like damn steve thats a phat ride.. how much did it cost? i was like nothing.. they were like dayum u serious man? i was like hell yeah i got it for free helpin guys online. they were like damn i hate you
heard RADAR got sent a lamborghini this year ... kinda messed up i get stuck with the ferrari
anyway give it a few months, follow my diet and workout.. THEN once you build up some mass jump on the beastdrol and power yourself to the next level.. thats the way to do it.. cannot take a shortcut
I thought it was NTBM that bought u that sweet ride?
nah EF pays me enough, i don't need to make extra on the side as a trainer. that ferrari i have in the driveway that EF sent me this year is enough payment.
my friends at the gym heard me pull up the other day and were like damn steve thats a phat ride.. how much did it cost? i was like nothing.. they were like dayum u serious man? i was like hell yeah i got it for free helpin guys online. they were like damn i hate you
heard RADAR got sent a lamborghini this year ... kinda messed up i get stuck with the ferrari
anyway give it a few months, follow my diet and workout.. THEN once you build up some mass jump on the beastdrol and power yourself to the next level.. thats the way to do it.. cannot take a shortcut
Pics or it didn't happen
Iron mike 15
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U gotta b shittin me...... Must be nice! Christ if it werent for bad luck... I wouldnt have any luck.... Well congrats on the ride man... I hope to have ur knowledge in all this some day......
Sinister Minister
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Hey bro, if u believe he's got a Ferrari then I got a really nice bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell u
lol guys its an inside joke amongst mods. people think we get paid for doing this so if someone suggests that we will pull their leg.. i get asked a lot how much i get paid or whatever. we don't, the mod team enjoys helping people and sharing information. without these boards how else would we get to share knowledge and experiences?
i've helped hundreds of people on here, and yes i get offered things from people but i always turn them down.. i'm not doing this for personal gain, i'm doing it cause i enjoy helping people
i've helped hundreds of people on here, and yes i get offered things from people but i always turn them down.. i'm not doing this for personal gain, i'm doing it cause i enjoy helping people
Sinister Minister
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Off the subject question but Steve what do u do for work or career?
Proprietory trader. hows about you?
Sinister Minister
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EF pays me to troll...
Honestly I'm a contract estimator for an architectural firm who specializes in schools and hospitals
Pound4PoundAAS
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My bad
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Iron Warrior707
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If you dont get paid from ef, how come you and other mods always advertise sponsors of this site?
Everytime i hear someone ask question specially newbs, all the mods show up within seconds to sell the newb some ntbm product.. Now i never tried their products but how come mods never mention other supps from another company like gaspari, bsn optimum etc, or do you get ntbm supp for free?..
Just curious, no big deal bros..
MadeOfTren
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Ran deca for 14 weeks from October 7 2011- January 15 2012 in a dosing pyramid scheme 300-400-500 and then back down to 300 to 200. Trust me I have had sexual issues from the time I was on and am finally starting to regain my ability to enjoy sex and easily orgasm. That's over 7 weeks with a miserable sex life after finishing the deca run. Now granted I did also get off test enanthate that I landed as gently as possible by switched to prop and suspension but I never had these issues coming off test alone or the time I came off test winstrol. If I could do.it over again I would have planned the cycle so that I could have run test for another 6-8 weeks.
The results though were very good. I know a lot of it was diet and I believe that any aas can be utilized for either cutting or bulking, but deca did give me a soft rounded look that people in the know where well aware I was on. Deca did little for my strength but I saw increases greater than with test alone but one.day I.was suddenly stricken with severe lethargy that I can only compare to my first cycle when I ran test cyp with tren made from.fina.
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The results though were very good. I know a lot of it was diet and I believe that any aas can be utilized for either cutting or bulking, but deca did give me a soft rounded look that people in the know where well aware I was on. Deca did little for my strength but I saw increases greater than with test alone but one.day I.was suddenly stricken with severe lethargy that I can only compare to my first cycle when I ran test cyp with tren made from.fina.
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Iron mike 15
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Any word on how legit the stuff is on chemical needs.com for pcts?? Also how are the dosages measured?what does it go by?the needle? My little bottle of deca says 250 mg/ml... What does that mean? Is that one shot from that bottle or multiple dosages?
JuiceIsMyFriend
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That means it's 250mg for every ml or cc. ml & cc are the same thing bro. That's how strong your gear is. If you dont know that I suggest you stay away from juice for awhile. How are you supposed to properly know what your putting into your body? This ain't a game.
JuiceIsMyFriend
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Also wasn't trying to be mean or rude but deca is one of the hardest aas on you. You don't just inject whatever of it in you. Gonna mess you up big time.
Iron mike 15
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I get that.... I know it's a big deal... I have it.. But I'm not going to use it till I'm ready... I just didn't know how the mg or ml work somim trying to get an understanding.... So I'd I have the 250 mg/ml is that enough for a cycle or did I get screwed?
JuiceIsMyFriend
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That would depend how many ml you have in the bottle. Think of it like this (you only need to know simple math). If you wanna run 500mg a week of deca and it's 250mg a ml then you would inject one cc (ml) twice a week. 1cc(ml)= 250mg so twice a week would be 500mg a week. 250+250= 500. So if your taking 2 cc's a week and you do a 10 week cycle of it, or 12 week which is the norm you would need 20ml for the 10 week cycle or 24ml for the 12 week cycle. How much is in the bottle you have?
Iron mike 15
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Sorry for the delay..... Work has been a bitch and my little one sick... My deca says 10ml vial.... So that would mean 1cc for 10 weeks... Doing one shot a week......
Iron mike 15
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Again...I'm just asking to get a better understanding...... Not going to do deca for awhile till I learn more and I have everything on hand like test to go with it a.i. And pcts.....
Iron mike 15
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Stevesmi, been following ur diet......isince I started lifting again and working on my diet I'm three weeks in now lifting and week n half on ur diet I'm up almost ten pounds... I ll keep working away!
1 cc is 200mg. so if you want to run 300mg which is an ample amount for a newb then you would inject .75 cc's twice a week.
its simple math
remember chemistry class in high school when you thought you would never use this in real life? where here you go
of course man.. you eat right and workout right and good things will happen. you are way below where you potentially should be so its gonna be easy for you to gain. once you reach a point where it becomes harder to gain anymore then that is the time to use juice to push you through the barrier. but no reason to juice until then
Iron mike 15
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Stevesmi..... Yea it will be awhile... My vial says 250 mg/ml.". So is 1 cc = 250 ? When the time comes, I'm not going to do 300 ... IBM thinking just doing 250 or 200 ....
Iron mike 15
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Just curious stevisme..... What would be a good dose? 200 pr 250 ? And I read that the half life of deca is like every for days so slit ur dose to every four days? Ur thoughts?
