testosterone questions starting 1st cycle

[Caliber2006]

ok, i tried test injections three years ago and after the second injection i quit because they absolutely rendered me useless as my ass cheek or my leg would hurt hella bad. i am not a p*ssy and i don't mind the shots it's the afterwords cramp/soreness of the muscle that just killed me. i had a hard time moving around. perhaps it was bad gear or technique but at any rate i will give this a go again-

first, i plan to use only test injections, as this is my first non-oral cycle (unless somebody gives me a good reason to inject more than test). i plan to try and gain 20-30 pounds only of (of course) lean muscle if possible. i realize diet is a big part of it so i will make a different thread on that one. but i had some questions.

1) what's the deal with the different kinds of test?

Testosterone Enanthate
Testosterone Cypionate
Testosterone Propionate

why three kinds, and what is the best, or maybe what is the least painful after the injection. or does one get aborbed better, etc.

2) anyone heard of Chemco Labs? Is this gear OK? are there pics somewhere or something i can use to verify the gear is legit?

3) injection tips would be welcome as well as needle sizes, ways to reduce the friggin pain after. the injection itself wasn't painful, it was shortly after that the muscle was just reeling. give me some help here bros and plz be kind. i move around alot each day-

4) ancillaries- which ones? i got one bottle of AIFM (4 oz), will this counter the test sides? what sides are there? how can i minimize bad temper, zits, losing hair.

5) if a product is listed as:

10ml Testosterone Cypionate 250mg

what does that mean? there is 250mg in each ml and there are 10ml? I want to go for 10 weeks with the test, how many bottles would i need? When should inject (how often a week)?


thanks for reading this and hopefully i will get some hits-

best,
Cal

 

[rakasha681]

Pretty much all of this info can be found fairly easy searching the board, and the web in general, but i will fill in some of the blanks for you:

1) what's the deal with the different kinds of test?

The difference is the ester length, prop being the shortest, enth being the longest. The main difference is injection frequency, cyp/prop are almost identical, and should be injected once or twice a week. Prop is very short, so has to be done every day, or every other day, and prop tends to hurt more.

3) injection tips would be welcome as well as needle sizes, ways to reduce the friggin pain after. the injection itself wasn't painful, it was shortly after that the muscle was just reeling. give me some help here bros and plz be kind. i move around alot each day-

I use a 18guage for drawing, a 25 for shooting. Go in slow, straight, and steady, inject slow also, 1cc per minute. when your done, massage the area for a good 5 mins, hot compresses also help. and make sure you swab your vials and butt with alcohol prior to drawing/injecting.

4) ancillaries- which ones? i got one bottle of AIFM (4 oz), will this counter the test sides? what sides are there? how can i minimize bad temper, zits, losing hair.

AIFM is awesome for just test, should work fine for you, but id have some nolva on hand just in case, you will also need nolva or clomid for pct anyways. Sides are minimized by keeping blood levels more stable, 2x weekly inj for cyp/enth, ED inj for prop. Sides also depend alot on the person, some get them more then others. For temper, its mostly self controll, but oxycalm can help.

5) if a product is listed as:

10ml Testosterone Cypionate 250mg

what does that mean? there is 250mg in each ml and there are 10ml? I want to go for 10 weeks with the test, how many bottles would i need? When should inject (how often a week)?

Your correct, 250mg per ml, and theres 10mls. Depends on how much you want per week, the norm is 500mg, so inject 1ml on monday, 1ml on thursday, or something similar. 10wks multiplied by 2cc a week, is 20cc, so you would need 2 bottles of that test.

Hope that helps, but you need to do alot more research before you start poking around.

 

[JimBoy]

Make sure to do some research on pct, and have everything on hand before you start your cycle.

 

[justinjones1963]

prop is going to hurt like a bitch.

I view the pain as something good - if I am not strong enough to overcome the pain in my leg or ass because of a shot then I don't deserve to be in the gym in the first place.

I'll freely admit my first cycle was only orals and I was very reluctant to hit needles. Hell, I was afraid of heights so I decided to go Airborne when I was in the military. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

The moral of the story is that there is going to be pain when injecting and if you want to do AAS you need to accept that fact.

Good luck!

 

[cranny]

Your best bet is to either go w/ test enan. or cyp. The first reply by rakasha was confused on the esters. Cyp. is close to enanthate. They're both long acting. You can get by w/ one shot per wk. w/ these, though 2 pokes/ wk. is better. It keeps blood levels more constant. Buy enough pins to draw w/ one(20-22g.) and shoot w/ a new(23-25g). I like to use 1" everywhere but glutes. For that I like 1.5". If you use enan. or cyp., you should not feel any pain at all. If this is your first inj. cycle, go with 250-500mg/wk. split into 2 pokes per wk. Don't forget to read those sticky's at the top of the page before you do anything. Good luck.

 

[Caliber2006]

thanks alot guys for all the info. any more info appreciated. i will make sure to have everything on hand before i start-

also, any word on the Chemco? Is this gear OK? are there pics somewhere or something i can use to verify the gear is legit? I haven't ordered anything and am still fishing-

best,
Cal

 

[HD1]

Chemco is a top notch UGL , IMO . 50ml jugs are awesome

 

[Caliber2006]

bump for more views and also to see any more info on Chemco out there, maybe from some bros who have been in this forum awhile.

also, post cycle, is AIFM still OK to use only or is it necessary to go to nolva, etc.

best,
Cal

 

[Mac173]

Chemco is one of the best. I wouldn't worry about fakes. If you got it its probably legit, but I don't know who you are getting it from. If its AP then you are good to go.

 

[Caliber2006]

Chemco is a top notch UGL , IMO . 50ml jugs are awesome

for the 50ml "jugs" (hehe) it appears as though i only need the 20ml for the 10 week cycle if i obtain this amount. if all goes well, i could do another cycle with the left overs. my question if people are still reading this thread is, how long can test sit on the shelf and where or how should i store it to maximize shelf life? i gave my test to a bud last time because of the hella sore injection sites (after only two injections i gave up. i know, you guys think i am a p*ssy) and i don't even remember how i stored it for one week (was three years ago). this way i have enough for another 10 week cycle and maybe even a 5 weeker or maybe a longer cycle or whatever.

best,
Cal

 

[Caliber2006]

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