Testosterone Crashes are Brutal

[The Red Dragon]

Anyway I removed myself from my 7 week var cycle at 50 mg ED at week 3...I realized this kind of lifestyle or regimen wasn't for me (complex). Now I'm getting weak/lethargic/anxious and depressed. My PCT supplies will arrive soon (3-4 days I hope - I should have gotten it with the gear)...I'm wondering what I should do. Drop the dosage to 25 mg ED and wait for it or stick it out. This is kind of unbearable...I'm sure many people out there use roids without PCT, do they go through this? How long does it take for someone to recovery naturally? Keep in mind this was only var at 50 mg ED for exactly 21 days lol. My nuts also shrank strangely enough. Not sure if this was supposed to happen, I'm turning 20 on Wednesday btw if that helps.

Holy crap, you wonder how the fuck people pull off their cycles without PCT. Anyone go through something similar?

Oh yeah, my PCT will be 50 mg clomid and 20 mg var everyday for 2 weeks.

Thanks.

 

[FRC21]

Its cool bro. Just keep training and eating right and everything will go away. I'm on my PCT right now and the damn clomid has me more emotional than my g/f.

 

[bluetwistedsteel67]

your PCT is clomid and var? why var as part of your PCT? Also, 20 is way too young to fuck with the sauce. You had no idea what you were doing and had no business taking even something as mild as var. Do some research next time as var is a lousy choice for your first cycle.

 

[The Red Dragon]

No I'm not doing PCT with var. Var was the primary, I did research but I didn't anticipate this kind of crash. But I will agree with you on the age thing. I was thinking of using it to stimulate the growth plates, ahh well...we live and learn.

EDIT: One of the reasons I quit was because I thought things over and took age into account. But I realized that error now I can only hope that I can walk out without any long term repurcussions.

 

[bluetwistedsteel67]

bro don't worry. 50mg of var for 21 days will cause no long term probs and frankly I'm surprised you're having any trouble at all. I've taken 100mg of var ed for 6 weeks and had no problems

 

[Slyder190]

No I'm not doing PCT with var. Var was the primary, I did research but I didn't anticipate this kind of crash. But I will agree with you on the age thing. I was thinking of using it to stimulate the growth plates, ahh well...we live and learn.

EDIT: One of the reasons I quit was because I thought things over and took age into account. But I realized that error now I can only hope that I can walk out without any long term repurcussions.

I hope you are serious with that statement. Good idea, but you shoulda had PCT on hand first.

 

[satchboogie]

creatine and high calories work well to keep gains while on PCT.

cut the cardio out period!
and cut intensity too..

 

[The Red Dragon]

Thanks bros.
Yeah I'll run PCT with that in mind. I have a bunch of CEE laying around.
Oh I'm serious about the statement. I don't think I'll be touching these in the next 10-15 years at the very least.

 

[Its All Genetics]

everyone makes mistakes. its okay just run the clomid or get some nolva and run that. keep ur head up and try not to let the fact ur off mess ur head up to badd

 

[DieselGunz]

That is very weird your balls shrunk on Var, I was on var for 8 weeks and no shrinkage


Are you sure you were on var? could it have been Tbol or Dbol?

 

[The Red Dragon]

It could be psychological, probably all of it is. That's why I felt it was a bad idea to proceed with its usage, its just a maturity thing and honing up to the consequences. Even with academic/grey literature research I was still not prepped psychologically and possibly not chronologically lol.
The problem with judging testicular size is that its subjective, but I felt and saw that they did shrink or get more tender. There is suppression from var though.
I doubt it was anything else, I didn't have any bloating or anything. I got harder, more vascular, and a helluva lot stronger without too much size.

 

[The Red Dragon]

I think I'll just run 50 mg clomid with 20 mg nolva for 2 weeks...hopefully I don't turn into a wimpering pizza with tracer tripouts

 

[fleabag711]

yeah I made same mistake when I was about 18 when I used sustanon and deca and winny. I didnt have any specific cycle though. Went through a terrible phase coming off, but it goes away. Good thing you are young enough to rebound good.