Testosterone and anxity?

[Gearjunkie]

Hey guys just need some help.

I'm going to start my cycle soon after a long time off.

I've got some anxiety issues after my injury. Which I'm trying to mange without taking any sort of medication.

Just with the help of deep breathing and taking to my psychologist.

I'm thinking about doing a low dosage test prop cycle 300mg per week.

Do u guys think I should use prop or any different Easter so I my anxiety doesn't flare up.

Thanks

 

[vne220]

I've done test E and prop, deca, var, dbol, winstrol, sustanon, EQ, and some A bombs. The only thing I ever got anxiety from was EQ and that was at 400mg.

I understand how you feel. After 20 years of EMS I get panic attacks, no idea why.

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[dylangemelli]

i highly doubt that test is going to cause you any anxiety issues... i have been there bro... i dealt with it for a very long time and it can be hard to kick but chances are that you have a chemical imbalance and you should get it treated if it has gotten out of hand...

as far as a cycle goes, please post your stats for info...

 

[Gearjunkie]

i highly doubt that test is going to cause you any anxiety issues... i have been there bro... i dealt with it for a very long time and it can be hard to kick but chances are that you have a chemical imbalance and you should get it treated if it has gotten out of hand...

as far as a cycle goes, please post your stats for info...

230lb 13% 25y
My stats

I was doing blast n cruse for almost 4 years then I had an injury after which I couldnt train for almost 4months. Lost fairbit of size and gain some fat.
Got really depressed sitting home and then my anixity start to flare up. Now even small things trigger it but I try no to think about it as much as I can.

 

[Gearjunkie]

So is there any diff between the long and short Easter which can trigger anxiety or they all the same.

Ive heard short Easter hit system quickly and raise the androgen quickly that can cause anxiety

 

[dylangemelli]

bro you definitely have a chemical imbalance... there is a problem with your serotonin levels and I would really get help with it before it gets out of hand... you won't have to stay on any medication for very long and it will get you balanced out... otherwise, the problem is just going to progress on you and that is the last thing you want...

 

[Jack steel]

I got test anxiety in college all the time lol but ona serious note. I may get a little anxious from time to time on test cycles. The only reason i say this is because my "nervous habits" get a little more intense while on. Other than that, if i keep myself well fed, i feel great.

 

[Potent]

Try to stay away from meds for anxiety, if you do take them only take benzo's and only take EM when you start to get anxiety. An don't even fuck w ssri's, mark my word, the first thing a doc will recommend when you start talking about yr anxiety and depression is ssri's, shit is evil. I have MVP from taking Paxil for 5 months and now I've gotta carry it w me to the grave.

 

[Potent]

Try to stay away from meds for anxiety, if you do take them only take benzo's and only take EM when you start to get anxiety. An don't even fuck w ssri's, mark my word, the first thing a doc will recommend when you start talking about yr anxiety and depression is ssri's, shit is evil. I have MVP from taking Paxil for 5 months and now I've gotta carry it w me to the grave.

Best thing you can do for anxiety is learn to cope with it. It's anxiety cause you can't control it, so you have to do something that detracts from the stress causing the anxiety. hit the weights! and don't take caffeinated pre w/o supps cause those r loaded w caffeine and your begging for anxiety w caffeine.

 

[C0LUMB0]

anxiety shouldnt be an issue here bro , but if you are prone to depression then you need to deal with that first.
am sure you realise that coming off cycle can cause a harsh imbalance and mood swings .
it is good that you are not considering a crazy cycle and are keeping it moderate...with regard to the ester i think if you are going to run this then stable blood levels will be even more important.
i would go with E over the prop.

cross check any medications you are taking for serious contraindications before starting a cycle.

 

[Gearjunkie]

My anxiety mostly triggers from the bad thoughts.

Every time I hear some some sad news I just feel like im going crazy.

 

[Gearjunkie]

anxiety shouldnt be an issue here bro , but if you are prone to depression then you need to deal with that first.
am sure you realise that coming off cycle can cause a harsh imbalance and mood swings .
it is good that you are not considering a crazy cycle and are keeping it moderate...with regard to the ester i think if you are going to run this then stable blood levels will be even more important.
i would go with E over the prop.

cross check any medications you are taking for serious contraindications before starting a cycle.

You are right. That what I was taking about stable blood levels thingo.

 

[Killler]

Try to stay away from meds for anxiety, if you do take them only take benzo's and only take EM when you start to get anxiety. An don't even fuck w ssri's, mark my word, the first thing a doc will recommend when you start talking about yr anxiety and depression is ssri's, shit is evil. I have MVP from taking Paxil for 5 months and now I've gotta carry it w me to the grave.

That`s nonsense.

I`ve been on and off SSRIs for years now.

They helped not be depressed after quitting drinking 5 years ago.

Only side effect I ever had was itchiness on my last month of Lexapro.


Benzo`s are the real evil,stay away from that.

 

[stevesmi]

Best thing you can do for anxiety is learn to cope with it. It's anxiety cause you can't control it, so you have to do something that detracts from the stress causing the anxiety. hit the weights! and don't take caffeinated pre w/o supps cause those r loaded w caffeine and your begging for anxiety w caffeine.

this X1000.. stay the hell away from stims.

clen is a major no-no obviously but i'm sure you knew that.

good for you for trying to deal with this without the use of drugs. i would do yoga everyday upon waking and before bed.. just 10-15 minutes worth. I do yoga after my workouts everyday myself, its a great way to balance the mind and stretch out the muscles after a workout. it feels fantastic.

get things sorted out beforehand, testosterone can definately affect your anxiety so i disagree with some of my peers on this thread. its a hormone and it will make you more aggressive for sure and Columbo is correct that even if it doesn't effect you ON CYCLE, when you come off you are gonna potentially crash and get depressed when you watch your lifts go back down. lots of guys cannot handle the reality.

 

[stevesmi]

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/tren-cycle-gone-all-wrong-974973.html read this thread we just had from yesterday.. yeah yeah yeah i know he stacked tren and other stuff too but the point is introducing androgenic and anabolic hormones into the body can make things worse for you

 

[Potent]

That`s nonsense.

I`ve been on and off SSRIs for years now.

They helped not be depressed after quitting drinking 5 years ago.

Only side effect I ever had was itchiness on my last month of Lexapro.


Benzo`s are the real evil,stay away from that.

Nonsense? Ok well they are all addictive but have you read about all the people struggling to get off ssri's like they are on heroin? there's no black box warnings on benzo scripts, Bet there is one on lexapro. I will never fuck with my serotonin levels again.. If anything that's just compounding the problem. Benzo gets such a bad rap cause all the women abusing them and addicted and their shit doctors just keep feeding them more.

But whatever right, dude is not planning to mess with any meds, it's the smart route.

 

[Killler]

Nonsense? Ok well they are all addictive but have you read about all the people struggling to get off ssri's like they are on heroin? there's no black box warnings on benzo scripts, Bet there is one on lexapro. I will never fuck with my serotonin levels again.. If anything that's just compounding the problem. Benzo gets such a bad rap cause all the women abusing them and addicted and their shit doctors just keep feeding them more.

But whatever right, dude is not planning to mess with any meds, it's the smart route.

Obviously you don`t know anything about benzo addiction.

When you get hooked on benzos,coming off them will be the worst weeks of your life.

And benzos REALLY ARE addictive,so easy to get addicted to them,it makes SSRI addiction look like being addicted to tomatoes.

You probably reacted very badly to SSRIs yourself man.

I think for the majority of people they are very helpful.

 

[Gearjunkie]

Spoke to the Docter today.
He reckons my anxiety n depression is Related to my injury. And this types of anxiety do get better own their own without any medication. Just with yoga and exercise and nutrition.

He want to to a hormone test to check my hormones level. He said low testosterone and very high could both cause anxiety.

 

[ALIN]

Hey guys just need some help.

I'm going to start my cycle soon after a long time off.

I've got some anxiety issues after my injury. Which I'm trying to mange without taking any sort of medication.

Just with the help of deep breathing and taking to my psychologist.

I'm thinking about doing a low dosage test prop cycle 300mg per week.

Do u guys think I should use prop or any different Easter so I my anxiety doesn't flare up.

Thanks

I dont think you will notice any anxiety at that dosage especially.

 

[C0LUMB0]

Spoke to the Docter today.
He reckons my anxiety n depression is Related to my injury. And this types of anxiety do get better own their own without any medication. Just with yoga and exercise and nutrition.

He want to to a hormone test to check my hormones level. He said low testosterone and very high could both cause anxiety.

GOOD STUFF BRO, KEEP THE DOC IN THE LOOP ON THIS.

try to stay in a positive frame of mind and use deep contolled breathing to deal with panic attacks.
my high anxiety was driven by minor panic attacks which were basically negative thoughts that just would come from nowhere and then fuck with my head.

the high anxiety fed the depression and the cycle continued.

lexapro did help me and so did xanax... but ultimately if you find a better way to deal with your negative thoghts you will find your mental health starting to recover much quicker.

Send me a PM if you need anymore help.

 

[Potent]

Obviously you don`t know anything about benzo addiction.

When you get hooked on benzos,coming off them will be the worst weeks of your life.

And benzos REALLY ARE addictive,so easy to get addicted to them,it makes SSRI addiction look like being addicted to tomatoes.

You probably reacted very badly to SSRIs yourself man.

I think for the majority of people they are very helpful.

"obviously" you're looking for an argument cause you keep trying to sh*t on me.

When the f*** did I say benzo's weren't addictive?! Sure, abuse them and they are as addictive as crack. Your being a real punk ass calling me out on false claims. Also, I never fckin said I reacted badly to ssri's, in fact, they worked quite well for me--eliminated all emotion like they are supposed to, yipeee. But* I did say they gave me a heart condition, I may sound bias, so do a google search- it's not hard to find thousands of other people living with MVP and a plethora of other health issues due to ssri's. And Do you even know what a black box warning is? Maybe you should read up on it, oh thats right you can find it on the back of your lexapro bottle, an then re think your situation.

Please, tell me the last time you heard of someone with depression and suicidal thoughts start taking benzo's and still commit suicide after being medicated? now compare that to a drug like lexapro, Paxil, Zoloft that increases suicidal thoughts. Why would anyone who's suicidal, take a drug that would make them MORE suicidal and depressed?!

Btw, cycled properly at the administered dosage benzos aren't addictive, they are EFFECTIVE. They are a short term medication (month or 2 at max). You must have been firing benzos down your throat at one point in your life cause it sounds to me like you or someone you know had a fucked up experience with them.

Guess what? every drug has its sides, steroids fuck w your hormones, opioids fuck with your endorphins, benzos fuck with your nervous system, ssri's on the other hand fuck with the chemical levels in your brain! So have fun walking around like a zombie for the rest of yr life on lexapro bro. Personally, I'd rather be anxious and depressed than take a drug that wipes out my whole spectrum of emotion.

Gearjunkie I'm glad your getting shit worked out. sorry if I'm detracting from your thread here but killer has me a lil pissed.

 

[Gearjunkie]

GOOD STUFF BRO, KEEP THE DOC IN THE LOOP ON THIS.

try to stay in a positive frame of mind and use deep contolled breathing to deal with panic attacks.
my high anxiety was driven by minor panic attacks which were basically negative thoughts that just would come from nowhere and then fuck with my head.

the high anxiety fed the depression and the cycle continued.

lexapro did help me and so did xanax... but ultimately if you find a better way to deal with your negative thoghts you will find your mental health starting to recover much quicker.

Send me a PM if you need anymore help.

Have you tried st John wort braz.
Ive read some good things about it but not sure if it's worth trying.

Apparently its good for your depression

 

[Gearjunkie]

"obviously" you're looking for an argument cause you keep trying to sh*t on me.

When the f*** did I say benzo's weren't addictive?! Sure, abuse them and they are as addictive as crack. Your being a real punk ass calling me out on false claims. Also, I never fckin said I reacted badly to ssri's, in fact, they worked quite well for me--eliminated all emotion like they are supposed to, yipeee. But* I did say they gave me a heart condition, I may sound bias, so do a google search- it's not hard to find thousands of other people living with MVP and a plethora of other health issues due to ssri's. And Do you even know what a black box warning is? Maybe you should read up on it, oh thats right you can find it on the back of your lexapro bottle, an then re think your situation.

Please, tell me the last time you heard of someone with depression and suicidal thoughts start taking benzo's and still commit suicide after being medicated? now compare that to a drug like lexapro, Paxil, Zoloft that increases suicidal thoughts. Why would anyone who's suicidal, take a drug that would make them MORE suicidal and depressed?!

Btw, cycled properly at the administered dosage benzos aren't addictive, they are EFFECTIVE. They are a short term medication (month or 2 at max). You must have been firing benzos down your throat at one point in your life cause it sounds to me like you or someone you know had a fucked up experience with them.

Guess what? every drug has its sides, steroids fuck w your hormones, opioids fuck with your endorphins, benzos fuck with your nervous system, ssri's on the other hand fuck with the chemical levels in your brain! So have fun walking around like a zombie for the rest of yr life on lexapro bro. Personally, I'd rather be anxious and depressed than take a drug that wipes out my whole spectrum of emotion.

Gearjunkie I'm glad your getting shit worked out. sorry if I'm detracting from your thread here but killer has me a lil pissed.

I've heard from many ppl anti depressant do make you more depressed.

 

[C0LUMB0]

Have you tried st John wort braz.
Ive read some good things about it but not sure if it's worth trying.

Apparently its good for your depression

I was taking lexapro and st johns wort is listed as a big NO-NO for taking with this.

To my good bro's potent and killer, you have both made good contributions and valid points so lets not go any further with the heated debate on ssri's and benzo's etc.
Thank you.

 

[Potent]

I've heard from many ppl anti depressant do make you more depressed.

Right, and i don't mean to sound like im preaching here but ssri's make you extremely careless, over all value of life goes to the shitter. batman shooter James holmes was supposedly on ssri's and all kinds of other shit prior to the shooting. I knew a 12 year old who lived in my neighborhood shot himself after starting on Paxil for a week. major pharmaceutical companies hide these things from the media, it's sick. They prescribe the shit out of ssri's because they are not just prescriptions, but subscriptions, long term meds. believe me when I say pharm companies don't give a rats ass about your well being, they want that cash and nothin more.

 

[Potent]

I was taking lexapro and st johns wort is listed as a big NO-NO for taking with this.

To my good bro's potent and killer, you have both made good contributions and valid points so lets not go any further with the heated debate on ssri's and benzo's etc.
Thank you.

fair enuff