testicular atrophy

[bubba10]

i am doing a heavy fina/winny cycle, i am in the middle. would it be wise to inject 1500iu of hcg every 5days for a total of 3 injections starting tomorrow? To block the estrogen effects of hcg would taking proviron help? what size needle to use with hcg?

 

[2Thick]

Proviron is the best choice. HCG is only a temporary solution.

HCG is water based so a 26-30g needle will be fine.

 

[bubba10]

what do u mean it is only a temporary solution. what would be a permanent one other than stopping roids? is an insulin needle ok? what is the best spot to shoot the hcg?

 

[DaMan]

Proviron is the best choice. HCG is only a temporary solution.

HCG is water based so a 26-30g needle will be fine.

Uhm, you're saying Proviron reduces testicular atrophy?

 

[2Thick]

what do u mean it is only a temporary solution. what would be a permanent one other than stopping roids? is an insulin needle ok? what is the best spot to shoot the hcg?

It does not do much in terms of returning your natural test (especially in the middle of a cycle). Yes, an insulin needle is fine.

 

[2Thick]

Uhm, you're saying Proviron reduces testicular atrophy?

Uhm, during a cycle proviron is a better choice than HCG. Nothing will prevent testicular atrophy during a cycle. I was assuming that he would use Clomid after the cycle.

Do you even know what proviron does?

 

[STORM SHADOW]

People say mine are Brass........so I'm not worried.....unless some chick has a grinder for a mouth.

 

[Fonz]

Uhm, during a cycle proviron is a better choice than HCG. Nothing will prevent testicular atrophy during a cycle. I was assuming that he would use Clomid after the cycle.

Do you even know what proviron does?

LOL 2Thick......

Its 5:50AM, and I just laughed so hard I almost fell down
from my chair.

I swear its too early for 2Thicks fascinating sarcastic witicsms..
...hehe

Actually, I just got up to watch the BBC digital news.
They think, since the UK helped america, the UK has
now then become a target also.......

Godspeed

 

[Grainger]

note

One major problem with Proviron is that it tends to reduce the gains made from a cycle. This is due to the fact that Proviron is an androgen and therefore binds to androgen receptor sites within the body. With Proviron binding to androgen receptor sites, the other steroids present in the body (androgens) are blocked out and unable to take effect. Consequently, many athletes prefer to keep the intake of Proviron at its minimum effective dosage in order to make sufficient gains while still preventing gynecomastia.

 

[2Thick]

LOL 2Thick......

Its 5:50AM, and I just laughed so hard I almost fell down
from my chair.

I swear its too early for 2Thicks fascinating sarcastic witicsms..
...hehe

Actually, I just got up to watch the BBC digital news.
They think, since the UK helped america, the UK has
now then become a target also.......

Godspeed

I am glad that I amuse you...lol

In reference to GB and their assistance to the US, it is a shame that European countries are more susceptible.

 

[jersey boy]

Wouldn't Clomid help to retain testicular size during a cycle?

 

[2Thick]

Wouldn't Clomid help to retain testicular size during a cycle?

It would be fighting a losing battle because it would keep getting suppressed by the test & fina.

 

[jersey boy]

hmmm

 

[DaMan]

Uhm, during a cycle proviron is a better choice than HCG. Nothing will prevent testicular atrophy during a cycle. I was assuming that he would use Clomid after the cycle.

Do you even know what proviron does?

I was under the impression that HCG introduces synthetic LH to your system, thereby stimulating the Leydig (sp?) and some other (S??????) cells causing your nuts to grow. Nothing else - no anti-e, no hpta kickstart. From the title of the thread I assumed he was concerned about nut shrinkage and also assumed he's using clomid post-cycle.

Proviron, to the best of my newbie knowledge, is a mild androgenic that has anti-aromatizing side effects and is a lesser alternative to Arimidex, but I never heard that it does anything against testicular atrophy, which is what the title of this dude's thread was asking about. If I'm wrong feel free to correct me.

 

[rippedguy]

I believe his question about proviron was would it help to block the estrogen effects of the HCG. Not if it would work for atrophy. I just wanted to help clarify his question a little.

 

[Nimrod25]

Proviron is an androgen that has the abitlity to down regulate the ER causing an anti-aromatse effect. It will do nothing for testicular atrophy. HCG tricks the body into thinking LH is present and temporarily gets the testes workin, however, if more AAS are consumed once HCG is stopped the testes will atrophy once more. That is why 2thick said temporarily.

 

[DREXX]

HCG will restore ball size for about 2-3 weeks will on a cycle.

It's only for the cosmetic effect.

Proviron will work as aromatise-inhibitor for the HCG. Arimidex would be better.

If cant get arimidex try stacking proviron with nolva or clomid to make a more potent anti-e.

 

[Grainger]

medicationx

Anyone have any comments on medicationx? I don't want to say more because I am not sure if this is wrong to post? I will delete it in a heartbeat if it is.

Interested in some feedback though.