Test

[Johnny698]

Test is test correct , meaning whether you use ethanate or propionate if you dose it the same should you get same results aside from water retention

 

[nelson_303]

Test is test yes but,,,, different esters of test are key. Like test Cyp, test e, test prop, and test deconate. Everyone has there standby favorite. Some swear by sust as the best because of the four blends of test. Cyp is most common for trt treatment. And prop is not for wimps..

 

[Johnny698]

What do you mean by prop is not for wimps, because of the often pinning? I have only ever done sustanon , a lot of people say prop is there favorite also

 

[oxymoron]

As you probably know...
prop will kick in sooner and leave ur system quicker although ed or eod injections are required and its rarely run more than 8 wks. some people have painful injections and some dont.

cyp and enath will take 4-5 wks to kick in and will hang around in ur system longer. usually twice a wk injections makes it much less of a pain in the ass, literally. on average its ran 12 wks but can ofc be ran longer.

some people have less sides like bloat with prop, some get the same sides with both it kinda comes down to individual.

 

[oxymoron]

What do you mean by prop is not for wimps, because of the often pinning? I have only ever done sustanon , a lot of people say prop is there favorite also

yep, in addition to pain that sometimes comes more with prop over cyp or enath is just the more frequent pinning. 3.5 to 7 pins a week vs 1 to 2. over a few months the prop pinning really starts to fuckin add up.

 

[Johnny698]

Ok thanks, an if test makes you bigger either way why do people use test p in cutting for instance it all depends on diet no?

 

[oxymoron]

Ok thanks, an if test makes you bigger either way why do people use test p in cutting for instance it all depends on diet no?

yeah, true. it does cause less bloat with a lot of folks so thats part of the reason its nice on a cut, but when the water drops at the end of the cycle if u do bloat, it is what it is. and ofc there are ways to manage bloat, forma stanzol being a great one.

 

[Johnny698]

Ok thank you so test p should be pinned Ed to eod and tren e should be pinned how often ?

 

[dylangemelli]

if test was test then there wouldn't be so many different types... i hate that misconception...

besides test suspsension... test prop has the most actual test due to the short ester... test cyp has the longest ester and has the lowest percent amount of actual test...

test prop would be ran 150 mg eod

 

[rustilldown]

if test was test then there wouldn't be so many different types... i hate that misconception...

besides test suspsension... test prop has the most actual test due to the short ester... test cyp has the longest ester and has the lowest percent amount of actual test...

test prop would be ran 150 mg eod

150 EOD is a high starting dose of prop for a noob. Start at 100. And 150 mg of prop in one shot can have a real nasty fuckin bite


Ride it like you stole it!!

 

[dylangemelli]

150 isn't too high... i wouldn't go over that but that's not too high...

 

[rustilldown]

150 isn't too high... i wouldn't go over that but that's not too high...

I agree it isn't t too high but I think it's high for a first cycle. Lol just from personal experience I've been crippled by 150 mgs lol sit down on the shitter using both hands so I don't fall into it! Cause I can easily grow on 100/EOD still


Ride it like you stole it!!

 

[Johnny698]

So if you do 500mg of test e for example every week and 500 mg of test p every week you should grow more off test p? And it would be my 3rd cycle , also how often should I pin the tren e and what dosage for first time running it

 

[dylangemelli]

So if you do 500mg of test e for example every week and 500 mg of test p every week you should grow more off test p? And it would be my 3rd cycle , also how often should I pin the tren e and what dosage for first time running it

test prop is a fast acting ester so it will kick in right away... you also get the most actual pure test from it than any other test except for suspension... the problem is that it hurts like a motherfucker but there are ways to help that as well and there are a bunch of threads that go into detail on how to help with that... i like prop because it only needs to be ran for 8 weeks and there is less bloat involved with it... of course an ai will help with bloat with the longer ester but i prefer shorter cycles anyway...

i would go with tren ace as opposed to tren e... if you are going to run tren e then i would go 300-350 mg week...

 

[jcmbbfuture]

So if you do 500mg of test e for example every week and 500 mg of test p every week you should grow more off test p? And it would be my 3rd cycle , also how often should I pin the tren e and what dosage for first time running it

I liked pinning tren e twice just to keep things more stable. If u are going with tren e I would stick with a long ester test. As far as dosing I think 200mg a week is plenty for a first run. U will see good things from it.

I wouldn't necessarily say u would grow more with prop. There is more test per mg with prop (because the ester is shorter, taking up less weight per mg) ,but to me there isnt a big enough discrepancy to see a noticeable change in overall growth.

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[Johnny698]

Ok so the tren il take Monday and Thursday at 150mg and ill get some sustanon Nd run that 500mg/ week mon/ thurs pin also

 

[Johnny698]

Also how long should I run the tren for?

 

[jcmbbfuture]

Also how long should I run the tren for?

I wouldn't go over 8 weeks bud.

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