Test + Tren...

[Nighthawkk]

Gonna keep this one short...any benefit to adding Tren to the following cycle I'm on? I have yet to run tren it in a bulking capacity and think it would work nicely. In Week 5 of:

Week 1-4 Dbol 35mg ED
Week 1-9 Deca 400mg (may drop it)
Week 1-10 Enanthate 500mg
Week 10-12 Winny 50mg ED

Addition would be:

Week 8-12 Tren 75mg ED
Week 10-12 Prop 100mg EOD

Karma for solid advice, thanks

 

[chaquito]

drop deca and add fina bro, the best thing you can do IF you dont care about sides related to steroids.

 

[Nighthawkk]

^

 

[muscleup]

Test + tren =KING
Deca= crap

 

[Nighthawkk]

What sort of effect will the tren have with winny/prop towards the end though? I am looking to continue the gains from the test, but also harden up and add vascularity.

 

[muscleup]

Then tren is what you want ...Tren helps you get harder and leaner at the same time

 

[Barak]

Tren's also sending my strength thru the roof this is my first time mixing the two and I am a little more agressive and hornier than usual but nothing Bad and feel f-ing fantastic.Tren is great.

 

[Nighthawkk]

Will 5 weeks be enough @ 75mg?

 

[gymratforlife]

I would do it for at least 8 weeks bro.

 

[Dirty V]

TREN IS THE KING!!!!!Hands down, you will feel it in 3-4 days-Incredible!!!

 

[Nighthawkk]

It's fast-acting though, I figured 5 weeks would be enough

 

[Dirty V]

it works quickly!

 

[newpump]

For me, it takes about 4 or so weeks to REALLY "feel" the tren difference. The guys that feel it in 3~4 days - thats amazing, doesn't work like that for anyone I know.

 

[Nighthawkk]

For me, it takes about 4 or so weeks to REALLY "feel" the tren difference. The guys that feel it in 3~4 days - thats amazing, doesn't work like that for anyone I know.

I'm not sure that I need to "feel" it, but I am seriously considering adding it for purposes of hardening the muscle and adding vascularity, as I said earlier. I have a puffy look from the test/deca/dbol right now, so finishing off with prop/winny/tren may be what I'm looking for. Though I still need more opinions from those who may have done this before...

 

[Dirty V]

New Pump-this is my first AAS since last july, but both times I have used tren I feel it within the first week! Last nite I had 3 people say something to me about how full I looked-First pop was monday morning, thursday there was no doubt my skin felt like it was going to rip!

 

[Mythicalbeing]

Tren and test prop would be a better combo both fast acting esters.

 

[gymratforlife]

feeling it is one thing but actually doing something is another and 5 weeks is too short for tren I am runin Tren right now along with EQ and 600mg Test a week I will run the tren 14 days past the Test so I can run it close to PCT I will also be adding winy for the second half of the cycle wich is 8 weeks,imo not worth really runing any of these compounds under 8 weeks.I am runing a 16 week cycle atm.

 

[Nucman]

Yes I can see and feel the effects of tren within the week. I wake up pumped, cannot run on the treadmil because of pumps in my calves, PUMPS, muscles look full all the time, better workouts because of added aggression, extra reps and wt added to the bar.

 

[gymratforlife]

lol u canot see any permanent changes in body structure in one day that is inpossible,what u are feeling and seeing is mostly due to water loss same reason why it makes your joints hurt all the time.Ive done enough winstrol to know this first hand bro winstrol=very mild anabolic not a big deal,most changes that are really noticeable come from water reduction not from imediate fat loss.losing lipids takes a lot longer than u think and has a lot more to do with diet/cardio than it does with the drugs u taking take it from some one that is 5'6" 201 10% BF and was 246 with about 28% BF 10mths ago.

 

[gymratforlife]

for some reason thought u posted about winstrol,my bad.

 

[newpump]

lol u canot see any permanent changes in body structure in one day that is inpossible,what u are feeling and seeing is mostly due to water loss same reason why it makes your joints hurt all the time.Ive done enough winstrol to know this first hand bro winstrol=very mild anabolic not a big deal,most changes that are really noticeable come from water reduction not from imediate fat loss.losing lipids takes a lot longer than u think and has a lot more to do with diet/cardio than it does with the drugs u taking take it from some one that is 5'6" 201 10% BF and was 246 with about 28% BF 10mths ago.

I agree with you Gymrat - I notice water differences early with tren+prop, but it really takes 5 or more weeks to see solid muscle changes and major strength gains. Getting "bigger" in 3 days is just not realistic I don't think -but from a psychological perspective using the AAS may add some hidden intensity to your workouts.

 

[Nighthawkk]

feeling it is one thing but actually doing something is another and 5 weeks is too short for tren I am runin Tren right now along with EQ and 600mg Test a week I will run the tren 14 days past the Test so I can run it close to PCT I will also be adding winy for the second half of the cycle wich is 8 weeks,imo not worth really runing any of these compounds under 8 weeks.I am runing a 16 week cycle atm.

I don't exactly agree with the idea that 5 weeks of tren would be too short. Remember, I am adding to my cycle of Enan/Deca/Dbol, and I am in week 5...therefore I am already in a very anabolic state, so I think doing the prop/winny/tren at the end would be helpful to solidify the gains a bit. I can also start PCT immediately which will be easier than waiting 3-4 weeks for deca/enan to leave the system....

 

[lartinos]

about 12 days until I feel tren. The stuff is worth the sides, just don't be a pussy and you'll get the gains you want.

 

[androjunkie]

my buddy did a cycle as follows: frontloaded 1,000mgs test followed by 600 weekly, 50mgs stanazolic(ed), and 75mgs tren(ed) I was spotting him the week before he started and he got 315 three times on flat barbell, 5 weeks later I spotted him and he got 405 twice unassisted. Through those 5 weeks I saw him freakin inflate, it was incredible, I never saw someone make as much strength and mass increase in such a short time as I did with him. I sampled some tren on one of my cycles, to kind of get a feel for it, when I was running 600mgs test, and 400mgs eq (i was in my 10th week) and took 1cc, waited a day then took another and I had the worst bout of insomnia I ever had (it lasted for 5days) but my strength went way up that week even after I had plateaud on that cycle. Tren is strong stuff I just hope I can tolerate it when I decide to use it.