Test/Tren vs Test/Deca

[Nomak666]

For strictly bulking purposes, which do you guys prefer? it could be any esters of test and any esters of tren, i just want to know which would yield better results. Tren will obviously give more strength gains but the gains will be leaner and dry, deca will make you gain more weight and the gains will be more water and will make you bloat more. Im currently running test e and tren e, 500mg of each every week and im having second thoughts. im on my 5th week and the strength gains are insane but the appetite suppression is killing me, i thought it was letro or dostinex, so i dropped them and its still botherring me, i really have no appetite, 2-3 small meals a day and im full, even though i try my best to force down more food. so what i was thinking of doing was dropping the tren and throwing in deca. run that for 14-16 weeks (i like long cycles, and i usually stop when the gains stop, which is when i cant eat any more food then the large amount im already eating). Then jump onto a clomid and nolvadex pct for 6 weeks (ive been on cycle for a while now so i need a longer pct, imo). then take 3 months off and try to hold as much gains as possible with diet and training. then jump on a test e/tren e/mast e cycle for the summer. tell me what you guys think, or what you would do.


thanks

 

[HAYEZ]

test
deca
tren
hgh
thats the best bulker

 

[ConanX]

If Tren kills your appetite then that is a big problem. Food is what will make you grow so if Tren is the culprit, then definitely drop it. Tren made me extremely hungry, much moreso than EQ.

I like Deca and I like Tren. They are both great for bulking. I happen to like Tren Ace a lot because of the instant results and the freaky look. You should be fine with Test/Deca cycle for pure mass gains.

 

[knud1]

Hey everyone,
I am new to this site so hang with me. I am 22 yrs old 5′10 1/2″ and weighing 205 lbs. I do not know my current bf% but I am fairly lean (not shredded tho). I have done two cycles before. My first cycle was dbol by itself with no PCT. I was young and dumb and new nothing about gear, I was actually 17yrs old. The second cycle was this past summer and I ran Test Sustanon 250 with front loading winstrol tablets 50 mg a day and finished my last six weekswith Tren homebrew. So it went like so…
wks 1-12 Test Sust. 250 @ 350 mg a week
wks 1-5 Winny tabs @ 50 mg ED
wks 6-12 Tren ace @ 75 mg EOD
PCT
3 weeks after last shot I ran clomid and Nolvadex. First 5 Days of PCT I ran 100 mg of clomid then bumped it down to 50 mg ed and 40 mg of nolvadex ed.
Let me explain one more thing about myself. When I did dbol carelessly I built up some gyno, that only got worse by smoking weed and drinking in college. This past summers cycle did not aggrevate it at all. I am actually getting gyno surgery in exactly 4 weeks from today and want to run another cycle (my third) in the middle of March. So my question becomes complicated because I want to bulk due to loss of muscle during recovery, but I also want to be lean before summer ( I know you can’t bulk and cut at the same time but I want too!). I was thinking about these to cycles…
wks 1-12 test Sustanon 250 @ 500mg EW ( i get it cheap)
wks 1-12 EQ @ 400 mg EW
wks 1-4 Dbol at 25-30 mg ED to front load
wks 6-12 Tren Ace Home brew @ 75mg EOD
PCT (3 weeks after last shot)
Clomid @50-100 mg ED
Nolvadex @40 mg ED
HCG if needed (play that by ear)
Does that cycle look good for my goals? Or do you guys suggest i drop one of the gears, like tren???
Thanks brothers!!

 

[ConanX]

Hey everyone,
I am new to this site so hang with me. I am 22 yrs old 5′10 1/2″ and weighing 205 lbs. I do not know my current bf% but I am fairly lean (not shredded tho). I have done two cycles before. My first cycle was dbol by itself with no PCT. I was young and dumb and new nothing about gear, I was actually 17yrs old. The second cycle was this past summer and I ran Test Sustanon 250 with front loading winstrol tablets 50 mg a day and finished my last six weekswith Tren homebrew. So it went like so…
wks 1-12 Test Sust. 250 @ 350 mg a week
wks 1-5 Winny tabs @ 50 mg ED
wks 6-12 Tren ace @ 75 mg EOD
PCT
3 weeks after last shot I ran clomid and Nolvadex. First 5 Days of PCT I ran 100 mg of clomid then bumped it down to 50 mg ed and 40 mg of nolvadex ed.
Let me explain one more thing about myself. When I did dbol carelessly I built up some gyno, that only got worse by smoking weed and drinking in college. This past summers cycle did not aggrevate it at all. I am actually getting gyno surgery in exactly 4 weeks from today and want to run another cycle (my third) in the middle of March. So my question becomes complicated because I want to bulk due to loss of muscle during recovery, but I also want to be lean before summer ( I know you can’t bulk and cut at the same time but I want too!). I was thinking about these to cycles…
wks 1-12 test Sustanon 250 @ 500mg EW ( i get it cheap)
wks 1-12 EQ @ 400 mg EW
wks 1-4 Dbol at 25-30 mg ED to front load
wks 6-12 Tren Ace Home brew @ 75mg EOD
PCT (3 weeks after last shot)
Clomid @50-100 mg ED
Nolvadex @40 mg ED
HCG if needed (play that by ear)
Does that cycle look good for my goals? Or do you guys suggest i drop one of the gears, like tren???
Thanks brothers!!

That cycle will definitely give you lean gains in muscle. You will put on some size, as well as lose some fat and gain definition. BUT this ALL depends on your diet. If you eat clean and perfect then you will get the results you like. Slop it up and you'll have sloppy gains (the tren helps though).

Why not do a lean bulker and then summer time cut up?

 

[Nomak666]

Hey everyone,
I am new to this site so hang with me. I am 22 yrs old 5′10 1/2″ and weighing 205 lbs. I do not know my current bf% but I am fairly lean (not shredded tho). I have done two cycles before. My first cycle was dbol by itself with no PCT. I was young and dumb and new nothing about gear, I was actually 17yrs old. The second cycle was this past summer and I ran Test Sustanon 250 with front loading winstrol tablets 50 mg a day and finished my last six weekswith Tren homebrew. So it went like so…
wks 1-12 Test Sust. 250 @ 350 mg a week
wks 1-5 Winny tabs @ 50 mg ED
wks 6-12 Tren ace @ 75 mg EOD
PCT
3 weeks after last shot I ran clomid and Nolvadex. First 5 Days of PCT I ran 100 mg of clomid then bumped it down to 50 mg ed and 40 mg of nolvadex ed.
Let me explain one more thing about myself. When I did dbol carelessly I built up some gyno, that only got worse by smoking weed and drinking in college. This past summers cycle did not aggrevate it at all. I am actually getting gyno surgery in exactly 4 weeks from today and want to run another cycle (my third) in the middle of March. So my question becomes complicated because I want to bulk due to loss of muscle during recovery, but I also want to be lean before summer ( I know you can’t bulk and cut at the same time but I want too!). I was thinking about these to cycles…
wks 1-12 test Sustanon 250 @ 500mg EW ( i get it cheap)
wks 1-12 EQ @ 400 mg EW
wks 1-4 Dbol at 25-30 mg ED to front load
wks 6-12 Tren Ace Home brew @ 75mg EOD
PCT (3 weeks after last shot)
Clomid @50-100 mg ED
Nolvadex @40 mg ED
HCG if needed (play that by ear)
Does that cycle look good for my goals? Or do you guys suggest i drop one of the gears, like tren???
Thanks brothers!!

Wayy to jack my thread buddy.

 

[Nomak666]

test
deca
tren
hgh
thats the best bulker

Yeah i forgot to mention im on hgh as well, but its serotropin and i thnk they suck. im hoping the appetite is not from the tren but idk. i ran it last year and it didnt affect my appetite much, maybe the letro and dostinex is still in my system, i dropped them a few days ago just to see if it would help.

 

[Quadsweep]

They are really two entirely different animals. I would think for most Tren /Test would be a better bet. More solid gains, less water retention, more strength and a better price as well! However, if your shoulders hurt the Test/ Deca may be the answer.

Jeff

 

[Nomak666]

They are really two entirely different animals. I would think for most Tren /Test would be a better bet. More solid gains, less water retention, more strength and a better price as well! However, if your shoulders hurt the Test/ Deca may be the answer.

Jeff

Yeah i thought about it. The extra weight from the deca is all water weight anyways, so the only plus i see in adding deca is that it lubes the joints for heavy pressing, whereas tren makes you pretty dry.

 

[AV8]

test
deca
tren
hgh
thats the best bulker

Exactly what im on ATM!