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test propionate vs sustenon250 NEED ADVICE

upone

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Alright well originally I was suppose to run my cycle as listed below.
wk 1-4 25mgDbol/ed
wk 1-12 500mg Sust/week
wk 10-14 50mg winstrol V

PCT nolva, clomid

Now the thing is I am able to save a lot of cash with replacing sus250 with Test Propinate. Also I might throw the winstrol V out as well

What do you guys think about this? Would it be fine to run the propinate for 12 weeks with the dbol? How much prop would I need to take and how often in this cycle? Also would it be ok to switch winstrol V to tabs or would it be too harsh on the liver with 2 orals in once cycle?

Im able to get a hold of the propinate right away as well that is why I also wanted to switch without having to wait a while for sus.

This is my 2nd cycle as well. 195lbs, 6'0, unsure on b/f.
Diet as follows. 3500 cals, 250-300g protain, low intake of carbs.
train 5 times a week and just started morning cardio on an empty stomach times a week.

I'm also considering to throw in the sesaPURE/Glucorell R combo with AF green tea extract while on my cycle.

Please give me some input on this guys.
 
upone said:
Alright well originally I was suppose to run my cycle as listed below.
wk 1-4 25mgDbol/ed
wk 1-12 500mg Sust/week
wk 10-14 50mg winstrol V

PCT nolva, clomid

Now the thing is I am able to save a lot of cash with replacing sus250 with Test Propinate. Also I might throw the winstrol V out as well

What do you guys think about this? Would it be fine to run the propinate for 12 weeks with the dbol? How much prop would I need to take and how often in this cycle? Also would it be ok to switch winstrol V to tabs or would it be too harsh on the liver with 2 orals in once cycle?

Im able to get a hold of the propinate right away as well that is why I also wanted to switch without having to wait a while for sus.

This is my 2nd cycle as well. 195lbs, 6'0, unsure on b/f.
Diet as follows. 3500 cals, 250-300g protain, low intake of carbs.
train 5 times a week and just started morning cardio on an empty stomach times a week.

I'm also considering to throw in the sesaPURE/Glucorell R combo with AF green tea extract while on my cycle.

Please give me some input on this guys.

If your going to go with the prop your going to have to either inject ED or EOD...you could do it..personally i wold run the sust...but if your looking for saving cash and prop is what you can get..then you can do it. What are you tying to accomplish with your cycle?
 
bump what swordfish said.

as for the winny. IMO there is enough of a break between the dbol and the winny so that ur liver can recover. Just make sure that you are taking liver protectants.

looks like ur trying to cut up, is that correct?
 
Well my goal is to gain lmm. I know the prop won't bloat me as much as the sus but won't dbol give a bit of a bloat. Since you guys asked what my goals are will this cycle be good for lmm? Im not to worried of some bloat.

As far as prop. Well yes I'd inject EOD.
Winny well I might as well go with the oral. Like you guys said my liver will have 6 weeks of break time after the dbol. Might be a good idea to go with the orals.
Now as far as the liver protectants. The only thing I picked up was milk thrisle.

But yeah it's mainly the cash differance and the wait time for the sus. I can save about $250cdn. I know that most people say. If your doing a cycle do it right and spend the money. Which I totally agree with. I'd rather put my money into a proper PCT. But if I can use the prop instead of sus I will. So far I know it's EOD inj and prop might be painful.

Aside from all that how much prop should I inject. Is 500mg/week test prop the same as 500mg/week sus?

Also guys. Would sesaPURE/Glucorell R combo with AF green tea extract be ok during the cycle or is it better to start when on the winstrol or after the cycle.

Also how should the PCT run. I can't get a hold of a-dex. Got nolva and clomid. I planned on holding nolva on hand just in case i have signs of gyno. Clomid i wanted to use on the last day of winstrol. 300mg/day 1, 100mg, the rest of the week, and 50mg for the 2nd week.

Sorry for all the questions. I just want to stay on top of this and do it right.
 
bruce410 said:
i hope you are taking the winny orally if you choose prop, that is a lot of jabbing


swear to god. That hurts me just lookin at it. There's only so many weeks I can go on EoD... much less ED... *shiver*
:worried:
 
dont' list prices bro. use adex and you don't have to worry about bloat period. worth the money for your ass imo to run a long ester test, get some tylers liver detox from the af store
 
In your case I'd opt to use the sust over the prop. Even better if you could get enanthate or cyp.

And I'd go with the winny tabs for sure. Id never inject winny unless its zambons. Save yourself the trouble and use the tabs.
 
Outtlaw said:
In your case I'd opt to use the sust over the prop. Even better if you could get enanthate or cyp.

And I'd go with the winny tabs for sure. Id never inject winny unless its zambons. Save yourself the trouble and use the tabs.

AGREED!!!
 
alright well I'll look into to test e and cyp. Seems like the prop isn't all that good idea. If anyone has some more info or thoughts pls throw em my way. Aside from that I'll keep you guys posted on what I've come up with

thx bros for the info
 
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