Test Prop vs. Test Cyp...shorter is better?

[evolutionoftherevolution]

In gearing up to do my first short cycle, it seems that Propionate is a better choice to Cypionate due to it being a shorter ester. From what I read, the shorter the ester the less the chance for excessive androgenic effects, aromatization, etc.

That being said is it better to take 2 weekly injections of Test prop (equaling 200 mg) vs. 200 mg once a week of Test Cyp?

Also, does the HUMAN VERSION Test Prop injection hurt as bad as everyone says or is it the veterinary version that is a such a pain in the ass (pun intended)?

Thanks!

EOR

 

[DrJMW]

In gearing up to do my first short cycle, it seems that Propionate is a better choice to Cypionate due to it being a shorter ester. From what I read, the shorter the ester the less the chance for excessive androgenic effects, aromatization, etc.

FROM LOOKING AT BLOOD TEST RESULTS AND LISTENING TO SUBJECTIVE DESCRIPTIONS, THIS SEEMS TO BE TRUE. EVEN SO, I STILL RECOMMEND AN AROMATASE INHIBITOR IF THE SUBJECT IS PRONE TO ESTROGENIC SIDES.

That being said is it better to take 2 weekly injections of Test prop (equaling 200 mg) vs. 200 mg once a week of Test Cyp?

I RECOMMEND 100MG OF PROP, THREE TIMES A WEEK, EOD. THE SUBJECT HAS A CONSISTENT BLOOD LEVELS WITHOUT THE EPAKS AND VALLEYS OF THE LONGER-ACTING ESTERS.

Also, does the HUMAN VERSION Test Prop injection hurt as bad as everyone says or is it the veterinary version that is a such a pain in the ass (pun intended)?

I HAVE HAD NO COMPLAINTS FROM CLIENTS REGARDING HUMAN PROP.

 

[evolutionoftherevolution]

I actually plan on running 200 mg a week with a LOW dose of Arimidex during the cycle as a precautionary.

Test Prop it is, Monday and Thursday I'm thinking 100 mg a shot.

Last dumb question...EOD means "End Of Day", correct? Why would I want to to do the injection at the end of the day if that's what that means?

Thanks!

 

[Nelson Montana]

EOD = Every OTHER day.




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The Cycle Isn't Complete Without The "POST-CYCLE".

www.proteinfactory.com

 

[evolutionoftherevolution]

Ah...every other day...makes sense for 300 mg a week, but not 200 mg a week.

I'm thinking Monday and Thursday 100 mg a shot...or should I do 50 a shot with more frequent injections?

 

[evolutionoftherevolution]

Hmm...I'm probably overthinking this to death, but I like this idea with Test Prop for a 200 mg a week cycle:


Mon: 100 MG
Tue:
Wed:
Thurs: 50 mg
Fri: 50 mg
Sat
Sun


For a 200 mg a week cycle, that seems to make the most sense to me. Thoughts?

 

[powerforward]

why 200mg a week?

 

[evolutionoftherevolution]

Powerforward said: "why 200mg a week?"

I plan on doing a short cycle based on an article Nelson authored in 1998 entitled "Steroids for Health". The basic premise is short duration lowest possible dosage to achieve the desired effect.

That being said, I plan on using 200 mg of Test a week with 25 mg of Anavar for 4 weeks.

I am a steroid newbie and have zero desire to gain a ton of mass...just looking for a little "push". In regards to drugs I've ALWAYS believed that one should use the minimum amount necessary. The above protocol, in my mind, should mitigate androgenic side effects and aromatization.

EOR

 

[DrJMW]

Simply put:

Mon: 100mg
Tues: nothing
Wed: 100mg
Thursday: nothing
Friday: 100mg
Sat: Nothing
Sun: Nothing

My clients run their arimidex daily. Some run it every other day (EOD). but it must be run seven days a week or Monday, wed, fri, sun, tues, thur, etc. You get the idea.

 

[DANABOLIC55]

Do like the doc says and add the 3rd inj. on fri equaling 300mg's. You will get a big drop after wed. if you dont. Keep your levels even.

 

[evolutionoftherevolution]

I hear ya Danabolic, but I have zero desire to take more than 200 mg a week.

What ester/dosage would be good for 200 mg a week?

- EOR

 

[juicedbeachbum]

just go over 200mg a week. It's not that big of a deal. Infact, I've never run less than 350mg a week. You need to go EOD b/c the ester is short and it will create a very unstable blood levels. The unstable blood levels will induce more sides than running a slightly higher dosage. Personally I prefer to do it ED.

BTW, if you did cyp it would build up to higher levels in your blood, so it would be like running 350mg of prop.

 

[evolutionoftherevolution]

I appreciate all your replies. Still I definitely want to stay at 200 mg (I'm a pussy I know). That being said, I'm NOT going to use Propionate...rather 100 mg of Cypionate on Monday and Thursday. I think that will provide more even levels than Prop, and more even levels than doing 1 200 mg Cyp shot once a week.

Once again, thanks to all who replied!

 

[DrJMW]

If you must run only 200mg weekly, then use 67mg EOD as above. That is slightly about 0.50ml each injection (assuming you have 100mg/ml Test Prop). It's not rocket science. Just draw an amount slightly above 0.50ml on the syringe and inject. If I knew youw ere only going to use 200mg weekly, I would have told you to go with Test Cyp or Enanthate. At this amount, the blood levels are not as critical. Your choice.

 

[evolutionoftherevolution]

DrJMW, I like that idea that you posted with test cyp. I'm going with that, 200 mg a week, slightly above .50 mg EOD.

Thanks!