Test Prop / Tren Ace Cycle (Dosage Advice)

[Poseidonz]

Morning Guys,

I'm a newly registered member. I'm 24, have done steroids for the past 2 years. I'd like to think I've researched adequately and know what I need to.

I'm just looking for some advice on a more personal level based on your own experiences.

I'm 200lbs and 13% BF, 6'0.

I've always used long ester cycles and wanted to give short ones a go.

I've got PCT covered ...

Test Prop 100mg EOD
Tren Ace 100mg EOD


12 week cycle. My concern is normally I run slightly higher doses, although people are saying short esters pack more of a punch mg/ml.

Previously my cycles consisted of:

450mg Deca EW
800mg Test E EW

So I guess I'm asking, will this cycle live up to previous cycle expectations assuming my diet and training is in order? I look forward to your thoughts guys...

 

[Saiyan7]

I have not done any short esters yet. But I am debating that when I do, if I will do Ed vs eod pinning. Yes more pins, but have heard that using less oil the first time will help with the pop from the short ester. That being said. Test P and tren A is going to be my first short ester as well. I will probably do test p 50mg Ed and tren a 37.5mg Ed. That's 0.5ml of each per day. If I change and decide to do eod, it will be 100mg test p and 75mg tren a

 

[Poseidonz]

Appreciate that thank you.

I think I'll be doing 100mg of each EOD. Not a massive fan of pinning, seem to have sensitive legs and can't ever seem to 'safely' reach my glutes... always seems like a massive chore.

I'm just wondering if the 300mg of each per week, would be enough... I've done high doses before, up to 1.2g test and 800mg deca. Truth be told, just made me feel like crap and made training more difficult because of sides, which isn't worth it.

Trying to find that balance of high enough dose to work well without putting myself at risk of side affects that are to high.

 

[SayMilesAway]

Tren is 5x more powerful than test. That should answer your question.

 

[Poseidonz]

Correct, but previously I was running 800mg Test Em 450mg Deca.

I will be running 300mg Tren A, 300mg Test Prop.

Tren isn't 5x more anabolic than Deca... But because of the short esters it tends be stronger mg/ml ... Think I could get away with 450mg of each a week on short esters or stick it out on 300 and see goes?

 

[Saiyan7]

I think 300 should be a starting point. It's always better to start low and go up.

 

[Poseidonz]

I'll run that for 3.5 weeks to see how it goes, then go from there. Thanks fellas.

 

[SayMilesAway]

Correct, but previously I was running 800mg Test Em 450mg Deca.

I will be running 300mg Tren A, 300mg Test Prop.

Tren isn't 5x more anabolic than Deca... But because of the short esters it tends be stronger mg/ml ... Think I could get away with 450mg of each a week on short esters or stick it out on 300 and see goes?

300mg of tren would be somewhere around 1500mg of test. Deca has an anabolic rating of 125. Tren has an anabolic rating of 500.

 

[zmyj88]

Technically 100mg EOD is 350/week. And I think that yeah, its a good starting point, you can always bump it up, but you can't take it outta you once its in. Tren and DECA are two completely different animals, comparing doses just doesn't work

 

[ALIN]

Appreciate that thank you.

I think I'll be doing 100mg of each EOD. Not a massive fan of pinning, seem to have sensitive legs and can't ever seem to 'safely' reach my glutes... always seems like a massive chore.

I'm just wondering if the 300mg of each per week, would be enough... I've done high doses before, up to 1.2g test and 800mg deca. Truth be told, just made me feel like crap and made training more difficult because of sides, which isn't worth it.

Trying to find that balance of high enough dose to work well without putting myself at risk of side affects that are to high.

I think your idea of 100mg EOD is a great place to start. You may find its the perfect range for you or you may have to adjust it some.
Personally I would do very well on that cycle,,no question.