test prop and anavar and?????

[superturkey]

im currently 200lbs 6ft 26 yrs old been lifting seriously 3 years now, have excellent diet.

I want to acheive 10-20 lb muscle gain and lose as much fat and water as possible. I dont wanna get huge, just a nice shape and size.

Im thinking 500mg test P / week, 60mg anavar/ day but need help with a third. either Deca or Turinabol or???

advice from those that have done something similar would be great.

 

[C0LUMB0]

strange and mixed up looking cycle you are laying out there my friend.

Is this your first cycle ?

what have you got for sides and pct ?

 

[superturkey]

Now that iv thought about it i only want to add 10lbs of muscle, and i need to mention i want to stick to steroids that have long lasting gains and as little bloat as possible although ill run letro if needed

No this is second course, and am thinking hcg, but still undecided about going nolva/clomid or prov. advice on the best pct would be great too.

 

[dylangemelli]

bro, you are just all over the place here... do you realize how much different deca is compared to tbol? why oh why would you want to run deca if you are wanting to drop body fat and not have bloat? there is no way, NO POSSIBLE WAY you did research to even bring deca up in this conversation... thats fucking scary! what is your current body fat?

 

[C0LUMB0]

Now that iv thought about it i only want to add 10lbs of muscle, and i need to mention i want to stick to steroids that have long lasting gains and as little bloat as possible although ill run letro if needed

No this is second course, and am thinking hcg, but still undecided about going nolva/clomid or prov. advice on the best pct would be great too.

only 10 lbs eh ? phew ! i nearly advised you how to easily gain 20 !!!

no steroid will give you long lasting gains if you are not eating properly and busting your ass in the gym...

your knowledge on AAS seems very weak ( and thats being polite about it )

i think you need to do some serious research at this point .

BTW, what was your first cycle ? and what did you do for pct ?

 

[superturkey]

bro, you are just all over the place here... do you realize how much different deca is compared to tbol? why oh why would you want to run deca if you are wanting to drop body fat and not have bloat? there is no way, NO POSSIBLE WAY you did research to even bring deca up in this conversation... thats fucking scary! what is your current body fat?

Bf is 14%. Well what iv read on deca is that it doesnt convert to E thus less bloat... Wrong?

 

[superturkey]

only 10 lbs eh ? phew ! i nearly advised you how to easily gain 20 !!!

no steroid will give you long lasting gains if you are not eating properly and busting your ass in the gym...

your knowledge on AAS seems very weak ( and thats being polite about it )

i think you need to do some serious research at this point .

BTW, what was your first cycle ? and what did you do for pct ?

First cycle was 500mg sus/ week for 12 weeks and winny last 4 weeks

 

[Cali72]

Bf is 14%. Well what iv read on deca is that it doesnt convert to E thus less bloat... Wrong?

It does however convert to progesterone my man so if you don't use on cycle support supps then u may run into some trouble.

I would stick to the prop and var.

 

[C0LUMB0]

Bf is 14%. Well what iv read on deca is that it doesnt convert to E thus less bloat... Wrong?

deca does have a low rate of aromatization but is more commonly used on a bulk cycle.

either way ,you still need to do plenty of reading before you take this any further..

and what was your pct on the first cycle ?

 

[superturkey]

deca does have a low rate of aromatization but is more commonly used on a bulk cycle.

either way ,you still need to do plenty of reading before you take this any further..

and what was your pct on the first cycle ?

Pct was nolva/ clomid

 

[dylangemelli]

Bf is 14%. Well what iv read on deca is that it doesnt convert to E thus less bloat... Wrong?

deca is a very very very very very poor choice for what you are wanting to accomplish...

i think your best bet would be to go with prop, anavar and proviron...

 

[C0LUMB0]

Pct was nolva/ clomid

Much better pct available these days bro.

neither of those will kick start your hpta btw,

a couple of 500iu shots of hcg post cycle along with a low dose of clomid ' 25mg , some unleashed,post cycle and phytoserms will give you a better recovery.

use hcgenerate oncycle if you can.

but like i said you need to knuckle down to some learning first.
do you want to be one of the guys that come in here with a thread titled " HELP !! " its your body so its up to you.

 

[superturkey]

Much better pct available these days bro.

neither of those will kick start your hpta btw,

a couple of 500iu shots of hcg post cycle along with a low dose of clomid ' 25mg , some unleashed,post cycle and phytoserms will give you a better recovery.

use hcgenerate oncycle if you can.

but like i said you need to knuckle down to some learning first.
do you want to be one of the guys that come in here with a thread titled " HELP !! " its your body so its up to you.

Never heard of unleashed, does it have a chemical name? And y not hcg through course compared to shots post cycle?

 

[calabresenj]

Hey bro try reading some threads on the compounds your thinking of using. Just reading the profiles really only gives you the tip of the Iceberg. You really should read up more on pct. unleashed is an OTC product that's great. def check out some threads it will give you a better idea of what diff compounds have done for real people. Sometimes the profiles can be kind general in definition. I get bloated like a pregnant woman on deca lol. I don't care what the profile says. Good luck bro