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Tryn2

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Ok I have ead many many posts but maybe having it all on one will help. I need to be taken to test school !! I have heard to take sus 250 a week. Then 500 a week someone else said. I heard that if you produce 250mg yourself well if you take 250 and your natural shuts down then you have 0 wow thats great. So take 500 ? Then I may get sust flou oh please ....What are the side effects you know the real ones not the maybe ones. Will I have zit WWIII on my back or will it all be water weight or will I crash off of it fast. I mean it would be fun to gain quick but if its all soft and goes away like that Id rather do cleaner cycles that last. What test to run cyp,enanth,pro sust testoviron ? Whats the deal ? Oh and maybe with each one how often you should take them. A big sticky for the layman on all the test and what the do and what you may be looking to get out of them would be nice. The good about them and the bad...Maybe I don't know sh*t from sh*t but many of you do thanks for the help....
 
No offense bro, but it sounds to me like you need to do some serious researching. Educate yourself further before you start jabbing yourself. How old are you? Stats? Goals?
 
I'm 25 5'11 220. I have done one cyle deca only tapered up then steady then down for 10 weeks. I liked what I got out of it. I have been training for 3 years. I was looking into the second cycle and everyone is screaming test. Thats fine but then they just give opinions. Well I just thought if someone knew the real facts and it was all on one post that would be nice. I have seen people with many post under there belt and from board to boared but alot of them just contridict themselves. I am just looking for the truth on test...thanks for the help
 
If I were you I would run a simple sustanon cycle @ 500mg per week (thats a 250mg poke every four days) for 10 weeks. If you've only done one cycle, your receptors should still be quite virginized and you should make some serious gains. Side effects can vary, if you were succeptible to acne as a teen, then yes most likely you'll some back, sometimes quite badly. Try running pantothenic acide @ 10 grams a day to help ward it off. You'l be strong as hell, shouldn't bloat too bad if you keep your diet in check. Plan a good post cycle therapy and you should keep most of your gains. Your nuts will probably shrink as well so it might be a good idea to run some HCG towards the end of your cycle and run the following herbs to keep your sex drive alive when off and to free up some bound test ...Avena sativa 2000mg/day, Nettle Root 4000mg/day, Muara Puauma @ 1000mg/day, Xanthroparmilia @ 100mg/day, Cnidium @ 100mg/day and maybe throw in some Horny goat Weed @ 1500mg. You should be then good to go. good luck.
 
I have a full bottle of qv300 left should I run it with the sust say 250sus/mixed with 200deca mondays and thursdays or just hold off. I keep reading dbol to get it all going until the deca kicks in. But I am the new guy so if its test only then I'll run that. Its cheaper anyway. I know have not posted a lot but I read all that I can. thanks for your help...There is just so much info out there I am going to read this other post to learn a little more thanks. I am just very cautios I don't want to waste my time it takes alot of time to eat train and money so I just want to get the most I can out of every cycle because I cannot take time back and do it again. But this is very very good help....
 
In my own personal experience with test ethanate, test only cycles are cheap but they provide minimal gain retention once you go off both in terms of size and strength. Also, high dosage test only cycles can cause a real problem with zits and acne.

I had better gain retention on dbol only cycles than I did with a test only cycle. (Go figure).

My next cycle is going to be a Deca or EQ & Sust stack. So I'll post when I find how I respond to that.
 
I'd just run the sustanon alone as detailed and see how you react. You could add the deca but that will only further delay your recovery (as Deca is one of the hardest compounds on your HPTA). Dbol at 25-30mg/day for weeks 1-4 would definitely be a good kickstart to your cycle. Its really up to you what cycle you do. Just remember the more AAS used=more sides.
 
Wow, why is everyone still talking about sust cycles? They are not the mot cost effect test cycles, and does anyone really believe that sust offers a true advantage of enathate or prop?
 
Can I run something during the cycles just to harden the gains? I have heard of proviron everyday during the cycle for this. is that true ? What would the end difference be do you think if I left deca/eq out or if I ran it through. And with side is test at 500mg thats reasonable right ?
 
50 mg of proviron a day would work very well with your 500 mg of test. It will enhance your gains, and reduce water retention.
 
I guess from what I have heard and why I want to add deca or eq to the test is because I'm new and my receptors are fresh I only have run one deca only cycle in the past. So thats hitting them hard right ?
 
WSJR, no need. The test and proviron will be enough. In any event, the idea of fresh receptors has been disproven by modern science. Receptors UPREGULATE, in proportion to the dose used.
 
I would run prop or enathate. Personally I find prop to be the most cost effective, and I already do ed injections with tren most of the time, so its no big deal. Yes, if you can get it, 50 mg of proviron every day will work well. Save the winstrol for the last 6 weeks of your 10 week cycle though. You don't need alot 25 mg ed (half an amp) should be more than enough with the test and proviron.
 
BodyByFinaplix said:
Wow, why is everyone still talking about sust cycles? They are not the mot cost effect test cycles, and does anyone really believe that sust offers a true advantage of enathate or prop?
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I have done both sustanon only and test cyp only (close enough to enth) cycles and I much preferred the sustanon. For me the price is identical and sust offers me more advantages than straight enth or cyp. Sure prop works well, but why poke yourself ed or eod if you don't have to? Unless you make your own test esters (as I know you do) combining both enth & prop in a cycle is more $$ than simply running sust alone. Plus with sus I like the effect of the long acting testosterone decanoate. Overall I prefer sustanon. To each their own...
 
Since I'll be splitting it up should I just take the oral winny or can I put it in the same shot as test ?
 
Don't mix oil and water. Inject it seperate, or if you make your own winstrol, you can mix it into an oil based solution rather than water based, and mix them together.
 
You can't mix water based compounds such as winstrol with oil based AAS's ie. test. Either take two separate pokes, or drink the winny.
 
Mr. Black, well you CAN mix them, it just greatly increases the chance of getting an abcess. Rather just saying not to do something, we should say why (we both forgot to do that in your posts), in order to educate newbies.
 
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