Test Only Cycle- Why Would You Lose Gains???

[Texas Ranger]

Guys, I wanted to ask a few Vets a question that gets thrown out there ALOT. Why do guys say you lose all the gains from a Test only cycle? If you have a proper Post Cycle Recovery program in place along with a good diet, why would you? It just doesn't make sense.... What's your opinion???

 

[lawnsaver]

You wont lose all your gains!! Just another hyped up myth. If you restart your HPTA, eat to maintain new muscle, and cut training intensity down post cycle you should keep all muscle, but lose water. If A-dex is used, you should keep just about everything if you come off correctly!

 

[BigTimer]

hey lawnsaver what is that a-dex stuff ur talking about

 

[lawnsaver]

arimidex/liquidex/letrozole/aromasin...they are all aromatase inhibitors which stop the production of estrogen to a certain degree!

 

[BigTimer]

thanks dude,im running .5mg eod of arimidex and am using 500mg of test per week,u think thats enough,and u think it should be used post cycle

 

[lawnsaver]

yes and yes

 

[BigTimer]

thanks alot dude

 

[nautica]

I never heard that you would loose gains from a test only cycle. I think most people would be alot better off if they stuck to test only cycles. Instead of using 4, 5 or even 6 drugs.

Nautica

 

[flex123]

I never heard that you would loose gains from a test only cycle. I think most people would be alot better off if they stuck to test only cycles. Instead of using 4, 5 or even 6 drugs.

Nautica

why is that?

 

[galaxy]

People think they lose gains with test, when all they really lose is water. Test and anti e = deca, primo like effects. But, thats fine with me. They can stick to doing deca and remain smaller than me.............galaxy

 

[T2O]

Yeah I only lost water eight from the test kept all my muscle. I hear if you don't do proper post you will lose up to 90% of whats gained

 

[SuKY_GeNeTiCs]

Doing test enanthate ONLY 400mgs week in week 6. Strength this week was through the roof! I got 6 reps with a weight in bench press that I was doing 2 when I started my cycle. Squats and deads are also up. Up 10 pounds.

SuKY

 

[T2O]

Man your squats and deads only went up 10lbs??

 

[ripper2]

he probably meant squats and deadlift weights are up... and HIS weight is up 10lbs on the scale.

 

[Texas Ranger]

Up for more opinions!!

 

[PittBull666]

Test only cycles are great, they not only work great but they are non toxic and easy on the wallet. What more could you ask for.



666

 

[lawnsaver]

I agree...1 50cc QV enanthate $110, 60 generic A-dex $120, 50cc's clomid $30 = a whopping $260 for this:

Week 1 to 16: 1mg A-dex ED
Week 1 to 12: 1250mg of test
Week 14 to 17: Clomid therapy

Awsome!! 15-20lbs of quality LBM easily

 

[bigdelt69]

I have done several Test only cycles. I am very pleased with the results. Who ever made the comment about losing gains, obviously does not know what they are talking about.

 

[THE PROTOTYPE2000]

Hey Lawnsaver, what would you suggest for an experienced lifted(ie.7-10 years) that's over 200lbs for a First Cycle. If they were looking for modest gains in Lean Body Mass(15lbs) on a Test Only cycle.

 

[Mike P.T.]

Hey Lawnsaver, what would you suggest for an experienced lifted(ie.7-10 years) that's over 200lbs for a First Cycle. If they were looking for modest gains in Lean Body Mass(15lbs) on a Test Only cycle.

250-500mg test and that's it. Anti-estrogens as felt needed.

I'm not Lawnsaver but I'm sure he would agree.

 

[genarr3]

Only someone that REALLY didn't know what they were talking about would make a statement like that.

So what steroids does this guru think are best?

 

[THE PROTOTYPE2000]

Up for Lawnsaver and Vets!!!

 

[THE PROTOTYPE2000]

Up again... Thanks Mike P.T.!!

 

[Texas Ranger]

I would like to hear Lawnsaver's recommendation for a Test Only cycle for a newbie, too!!

 

[SuKY_GeNeTiCs]

he probably meant squats and deadlift weights are up... and HIS weight is up 10lbs on the scale.

yeppers

 

[THE PROTOTYPE2000]

Lawnsaver, are you there, bro?

 

[Texas Ranger]

Anymore opinions, guys???

 

[diet4ever]

250-500mg test and that's it. Anti-estrogens as felt needed.

I'm not Lawnsaver but I'm sure he would agree.

I agree, it's about the best cycle a newbie can do. You will gain a nice 10-15lbs. If you do 500MG split it into 2 x 250MG.

 

[gtrcivic]

The only two cycles that i have done were test only cycles. Both times i used Sus 250. One was for 5 weeks at 250 mg/wk '98 and the other 7 wks for 375/wk '02. Both times i gained 17 lbs and kept 10 lbs afterwards.

Next, i plan to run an EQ at 300mg for 6 wks, since thats all i have.

 

[georgie24]

WHAT ABOUT TEST/WINNY STACK TO LEAN UP A BIT?