Test/Nandrolones cycle PCT

[chris69]

Well the PCT forum coming up here hasnt happened yet so i need to ask my bro's about this !
When running a cycle like i am of Dball/test/and TREN, what is a proper PCT, I have several Bro's say dont use NOLVA when running Tren/Deca...So if a problem acures like GYNO from estrogen, then what can you run...Just AI's not serms?I hear theres a reaction between Serms and Nandrolones ?

 

[GUARDIAN]

Clomid & HCG for pct


AI's or Clomid (there are other lesser known SERMs but hard to come by usually) for gyno

 

[chris69]

Clomid & HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - for PCT - post cycle therapy -


aromatase inhibitor's or Clomid (there are other lesser known SERMs but hard to come by usually) for gynecomastia

I think you misunderstood my question.. That is what i usally use, but Bro's are telling me no Nolva/clomid when running tren, just letro/femera ect... ,why ?

 

[GUARDIAN]

u shouldnt run nolvadex with deca but i havent heard that about tren.

femara will have no bearing on the tren as it does not convert to estrogen. femara will be for the test & dbol.

 

[eastcoastplayer]

How long after your last inject are you starting PCT?

 

[chris69]

How long after your last inject are you starting PCT - post cycle therapy - ?

3 wks, sus/tren/dianabol.... 8-20 thats funny because there are so mant diff/veiws on that femera stuff...Ive have been told over and over to run femera for the gyno effect of Tren, and Dostnex if you get lactate probs....I'm back were i started again??????????????????????
Nova/clomid is what i have always used for test/dianabol pct.......

 

[GUARDIAN]

It has been reported in other bodybuilding literature that trenbolone does not exhibit any activity as a progestin in the body. I am not certain where this belief originated, as trenbolone does appear to exhibit the classic progesterone receptor binding ability that is characteristic of nandrolone and its derivatives. One study looking at the bovine uterine progesterone receptor for example found trenbolone to be a very potent binder, startlingly even more so than progesterone itself (4). Another looking at the binding of various compounds to the androgen, estrogen, progestin, mineral corticoid and glucocorticoid receptors found trenbolone to be a more potent binder of the progestin receptor than nandrolone (5), a steroid normally noted for its usual activity in this regard. What does this mean for trenbolone? I don’t think it really means that much. Trenbolone clearly doesn’t cause gyno, water retention or fat buildup, which one might attribute to estrogenic or progestational activity. So whatever slight action it does have as a progestin on paper doesn’t amount to all that much in the real world. The absence of estrogen may be a significant factor, as progesterone is believed to cause gyno by enhancing estrogen’s stimulation of mammary gland growth (6). Perhaps when trenbolone is taken with other aromatizable compounds it could affect a person’s sensitivity level to gyno and water/fat retention.

 

[chris69]

It has been reported in other bodybuilding literature that trenbolone does not exhibit any activity as a progestin in the body. I am not certain where this belief originated, as trenbolone does appear to exhibit the classic progesterone receptor binding ability that is characteristic of nandrolone and its derivatives. One study looking at the bovine uterine progesterone receptor for example found trenbolone to be a very potent binder, startlingly even more so than progesterone itself (4). Another looking at the binding of various compounds to the androgen, estrogen, progestin, mineral corticoid and glucocorticoid receptors found trenbolone to be a more potent binder of the progestin receptor than nandrolone (5), a steroid normally noted for its usual activity in this regard. What does this mean for trenbolone? I don’t think it really means that much. Trenbolone clearly doesn’t cause gynecomastia, water retention or fat buildup, which one might attribute to estrogenic or progestational activity. So whatever slight action it does have as a progestin on paper doesn’t amount to all that much in the real world. The absence of estrogen may be a significant factor, as progesterone is believed to cause gynecomastia by enhancing estrogen’s stimulation of mammary gland growth (6). Perhaps when trenbolone is taken with other aromatizable compounds it could affect a person’s sensitivity level to gynecomastia and water/fat retention.

Now that could make sence, so posiby if your get gyno when on tren and Test..use a estrogen blocker to lower the respose the Tren might have to the other aromatizing ester.!!!

 

[GUARDIAN]

Now that could make sence, so posiby if your get gyno when on tren and Test..use a estrogen blocker to lower the respose the Tren might have to the other aromatizing ester.!!!

I believe when you get the onset of gyno attack the estrogen first and then worry about progesterone and prolactin.