Those of you who know me know that I'm not a big fan of supraphysiological doses of test. I get too many sides from test, and my research has lead me to believe that high doses slow collagen formation. However, I will give you test lovers one thing: No other AAS will give you gains like test will. I know orals like anadrol and dbol will pack on some serious weight, but you usually lose it all because it's mostly water. I have to admit that test is the best for mood, and for packing on some solid weight.