test levels checked..Doc prescribes injections. lol.

[geo44]

just came off primo/test/winny 10wk cycle. did clomid therapy,but
still felt weaker than a popcorn fart. went to doc-checked test levels; he said they were "kind of" low. 136 on a norm of 240-830
sounds damn low to me. anyway,he prescribes 100mg test once
PER MONTH!for next 6 months. damn....with last 3 cycles I've been
on a minimum of 500mg a week. hope I haven't permanently shut
my shit down.

 

[go_hard_80]

just came off primo/test/winny 10wk cycle. did clomid therapy,but
still felt weaker than a popcorn fart. went to doc-checked test levels; he said they were "kind of" low. 136 on a norm of 240-830
sounds damn low to me. anyway,he prescribes 100mg test once
PER MONTH!for next 6 months. damn....with last 3 cycles I've been
on a minimum of 500mg a week. hope I haven't permanently shut
my shit down.

popcorn fart, now thats funny bro

go_hard_80

 

[mvmaxx]

Even with Clomid it can still take a while for normal test levels to come back. You should probably wait about 8 weeks and get them tested again. But keep that test!

And I don't know why he'd only suggest 100mg/month! It seems to me that any amount of exogenous test would shut your natural down and 100mg/month isn't nearly enough. I know people that get anywhere from 200-400/month for HRT (Hormone Replacement Therapy)

 

[NoLimits]

How long has it been since your cycle and clomid theropy? mvmaxx stated it already, but it can take awhile to get your levels back. I would hold off on the use of the test the Doctor perscribed. Keep it for your next cycle. Let your natural test levels get back to normal.

 

[geo44]

I asked him if he thought 100mg/mo would shut down and he said
no. I asked him how I would ever be able to verify if nat. test levels were achieved if I was continuely adding test? he said "o' well" they might never get back to normal. now that's peace of mind. he did say he had some patients on 200-400mg a month but didn't feel like my levels justified it. WTF?

 

[The Terminator]

100 mg/month DAMN! My dad is on HRT and he is getting 600 mg/month from his doctor....His test levels are probably higher than mine

 

[mvmaxx]

I asked him if he thought 100mg/mo would shut down and he said
no. I asked him how I would ever be able to verify if nat. test levels were achieved if I was continuely adding test? he said "o' well" they might never get back to normal. now that's peace of mind. he did say he had some patients on 200-400mg a month but didn't feel like my levels justified it. WTF?

whatever He's a moron. I did clomid post cycle last time and it feels like I am JUST NOW getting back to normal after 8 weeks post cycle. I'll have to have them tested to confirm. But just get some HCG and run another HCG/Clomid cycle in a couple months if it's still not back to normal by then. But I fully expect it to go back to normal after a couple months.

 

[mvmaxx]

100 mg/month DAMN! My dad is on HRT and he is getting 600 mg/month from his doctor....His test levels are probably higher than mine

<The Terminator's dad frantically looking for his test in medicine cabinet>

"WTF??!?!! Where did it all go?? Oh and btw son, you're looking very big lately"

 

[geo44]

whatever He's a moron. I did clomid post cycle last time and it feels like I am JUST NOW getting back to normal after 8 weeks post cycle. I'll have to have them tested to confirm. But just get some HCG and run another HCG/Clomid cycle in a couple months if it's still not back to normal by then. But I fully expect it to go back to normal after a couple months.

just my luck.....my doctor's conservative AND stupid. I'm with you maxx
cheers

 

[marky]

Not just you Doc

My Doc put me on 200mg every 2 weeks for the first 2 weeks then 1cc a month thereafter. Then his head nurse calls after the first month and tells me my levels of test were at 8000 WTF???
8000 what? Dont think he'll perscribe it again. Docs can be so ignorant. If the average male in his 20's produces 71mg/wk (I read somewhere), then why not 100mg a week. Im over 40 and am ready to bite and claw for those extra mgs. I could lay it on the line and say that its my desire to maintain this level of quality in my life. I would like the supervision and monitoring of the medical system, but if rejected I will pursue whatever means to continue as I have. Whats a (good) Doc likely to say?

 

[geo44]

I would think your average MD would shoot you down and say he's only willing to get you back to "normal"averages.
I'm over 40 also and my doc was looking kind of funny at me because my test levels showed low. the last cutting cycle I mentioned at top of thread was immediate follow-up to two back to back bulk cycles. my chart shows a 13lb gain in last year and the doc knows by looking at me I'm leaner than last year.
I don't know if he was suspicious or just puzzled.

 

[mvmaxx]

I don't know if he was suspicious or just puzzled.

He probably doesn't know what the hell to think. Most doctors are fuckin clueless.

Get this, I went to a doctor a month ago to get a check up to qualify for health insurance. This doc is like 80-90 and ready to die any day now. He weighs me at 206 and I'm 5'11". He says, yeah you're pretty heavy, you need to lose some weight. I look at him like WTF?!? I'm like 13% bf. Not super lean but I have a 33" waist. The average guy my age is like 18%. So I told him that it's muscle and I'm lean and he says "yeah but you need to remember that when you stop working out all that muscle will turn straight to fat."
<visions of mvmaxx pulling a True Lies type backhand on the doc>

He then proceeds to tell me that I should be the same weight I was during high school. I told him I was like 160lbs. He says "yup that's where you need to be". Then he tells me I need to do "water polo" cause that's the best sport for exercise.

MOOOOOOOOOOROOOOOOOOOOON

 

[geo44]

no shit sherlock....I told a different doc a few years back I was going to start A/S and he warned that it only created water weight and would make me sterile.
I obviously didn't spent enough time in school.

 

[DrJMW]

These are great stories...and probably 95% of the docs out there diagnose and treat the same way. First, if someone can to me and tested low, but was in their 20's or early thirties, I would try to jump start their natural Test levels to see if the HPTA still functions. HCG and Nolvadex. If levels do not increase as a result of this treatment, then one can assume that the present low levels will be permanent low levels. Then proper HRT should proceed..minimum 200mg weekly if out of the normal range. Heck, even Androgel 1% 5.0G applied daily will give you a max of 350mg weekly minus what isn't absorbed. Since low Testo/low HGH levels aren't "life threatening," doctors don't take hormone treatment seriously and take the continuing education courses required. It is your responsibility to seek out doctors that know what is going on..there are some out there; you've got to make the calls.