Test EQ Winstrol

[kru8887]

My buddy wants to run eq and test but doesnt want a big gain in mass, just lean solid gains. Hes done winstrol, masteron and test before. Hes 6'1 210 or somewhere in that range. He was wondering if it was ok to run test e as a base for 10 weeks at 250mg and eq at 600mg for 15 weeks. Is that ok? He is going to run 50mg of winstrol for the last 6 weeks with the eq. Nolva and clomid for pct.

So it looks like this:
1-10 test e 250mg
1-15 eq 600mg
11-16 winstrol 50mg

pct
Clomid and Nolva

Thanks guys


The cycle that im on now I tried gettin him on but he doesnt want all that mass gain:
1-15 test e 500mg
1-14 eq 600mg
1-4 dbol 40mg
11-16 anavar 50mg
proviron throughout.

 

[trip h]

im planning something similar and it was suggested to me to start the test, in your case, at week 5 so they end together.

 

[kru8887]

nice, never thought about that. should he do some dbol or tbol in the beginning of the cycle. eq takes a good 4 weeks atleast to kick in...

 

[trip h]

i would say it would depend on his goals..imo this cycle produces a lean mass look over time (depending on diet/bf and work ethic). if he wants to see quicker gains then kick start w/ an oral. if not just go w/ the T/EQ. i ran t/eq/winny cycle awhile back for about 16 weeks, started around 220-225 15-18%bf ended at 235 10-12%bf..absolutely loved the resaults...i got a lot of the "damn did you take roids" comments which i was trying to avoid, but loved it anyway...my next run w/ it i think ill lower the cals from the first time to see if it keeps gains out of the "holy shit" catagory

 

[kru8887]

haha yea, with my cycle im looking for the holy shit!! but with my buddy hes got a low bf% already, probably 12% or something, sorta see his abs, just wants a lean bulk while being shreded. he goes extremely hard in the gym and does lots of crazy ab workouts. the last time he came off winny he had an 8 pack, solid arms and just a great overall appearance. no homo. He just doesnt want the water weight and shit but i told him the winny should dry him out.

do you think with my cycle that the results should be quite impressive. Im a bigger guy, and just finishin up my second week of bol, and im up 10 pounds to 250. my bf% probly is a little high around 15-17% but at the end with the var im going to be cuttin the cals and upping the cardio.

 

[BlackIron220]

i would say it would depend on his goals..imo this cycle produces a lean mass look over time (depending on diet/bf and work ethic). if he wants to see quicker gains then kick start w/ an oral. if not just go w/ the T/EQ. i ran t/eq/winny cycle awhile back for about 16 weeks, started around 220-225 15-18%bf ended at 235 10-12%bf..absolutely loved the resaults...i got a lot of the "damn did you take roids" comments which i was trying to avoid, but loved it anyway...my next run w/ it i think ill lower the cals from the first time to see if it keeps gains out of the "holy shit" catagory

trip, u ran winny for the whole 16 weeks? im looking to try that cycle and add in winny a couple times for 6 weeks each

 

[kru8887]

that would be insane lol i hope he didnt

 

[BlackIron220]

that would be insane lol i hope he didnt

i know, that's why im asking mane

 

[trip h]

no no only the last six weeks, i started at 50mgs/day upped to 100mgs/day.......if his bf is already low he should love that cycle...your cycle imo will add more weight due to running the test longer and using the dbol and youre starting w/ higher bf...how many cals will you eat and of what quality..that will be what makes the diff imo...and if your bf is up the anavar/winny will make you hard but you wont have that cut look....but im no expert

 

[kru8887]

yea i was going to reduce 2000 cals from 4500 now and do hard cardio and ab workouts. I dont think have that much fat covering my abs, i can flex them and feel them, but who knows if thats a good things. What i dont understand is my stomach sticks out but im not that fat, its as if im bloated or something... i had that before i started gear tho.