Test/EQ and...Suggestions Please

[dosteov]

I'm going to run the following

TestCyp 500mg wks 1-10
EQ 400mg wks 1-14

Not sure if I should run Dbol or Winny in the beginning. I know Winny isn't as good for size as Dbol, but I'd be happy if I'm just getting comparable strength gains and not have to deal with the bloat. What do you guys think? I've heard some great things about Winny and strength gains. Can you get as much strength gains from Winny as you can from Dbol.

Some advice would be greatly appreciated...

2nd Cycle. 32 5'10 180 12.7%bf.

 

[Goldprospector]

I would def run D-bol at the beginning. Use A-dex or L-dex for the bloat. It will take so long for the EQ to kick in that Dbol up front would be the best idea. I would also run the Test for the same amount of time as the EQ. 14 weeks is not too bad, but definitely keep the Test in there.

 

[dosteov]

I would def run D-bol at the beginning. Use A-dex or L-dex for the bloat. It will take so long for the EQ to kick in that Dbol up front would be the best idea. I would also run the Test for the same amount of time as the EQ. 14 weeks is not too bad, but definitely keep the Test in there.

Will A-dex and L-dex completely keep the estrogen in check? So in your opinion Dbol is better for strength then Winny?

 

[TheRide]

I'm going to run the following

TestCyp 500mg wks 1-10
EQ 400mg wks 1-14

Not sure if I should run Dbol or Winny in the beginning. I know Winny isn't as good for size as Dbol, but I'd be happy if I'm just getting comparable strength gains and not have to deal with the bloat. What do you guys think? I've heard some great things about Winny and strength gains. Can you get as much strength gains from Winny as you can from Dbol.

Some advice would be greatly appreciated...

2nd Cycle. 32 5'10 180 12.7%bf.

I ran that cycle twice only w/Enath. You will see good gains. Not sure about the dbol, never used it, but I think adding 6 weeks of Winstrol @ the trailing weeks is a great addition.

 

[MUSTANG_18]

Will A-dex and L-dex completely keep the estrogen in check? So in your opinion Dbol is better for strength then Winny?

Yes, the Anastrozole (Arimidex/Liquidex) will eliminate the chance of estrogen induced sides. D-Bol would be my pick hands down.

M18

 

[dosteov]

Yes, the Anastrozole (Arimidex/Liquidex) will eliminate the chance of estrogen induced sides. D-Bol would be my pick hands down.

M18

What kind of dosages of Arimidex should I be taking?

 

[MUSTANG_18]

What kind of dosages of Arimidex should I be taking?

I personally would go with .50mg/Day through out until your PCT is complete but with that dose of Androgens I am sure you can get away with using .50mg/EOD.

M18

 

[idcbp]

What kind of dosages of Arimidex should I be taking?

Mustang's doasges are spot on as starting points, but remember that estrogen suppression is an extremely individual thing. You need to use the amount of arimidex, or whatever, that supresses estrogen to the point that you don't experience sides. That dosage can vary greatly from person to person, but I'd start where mustang suggested and then adjust if needed.

 

[tattoofever]

i dont like d-bol myself i bloat really bad on it and it tends to scare me away from eating like i should out of fear of getting fat ,i like to start my cycles with prop also like to finish them with prop if i was to run winny it would be at the end of my cycle say for the last 7-8 wks of so

 

[Makavelli]

That's my fav bulking cycle: Test/EQ/D-Bol. Use Rimi with it and you'll eliminate the bloat. Eating clean helps too.

 

[idcbp]

That's my fav bulking cycle: Test/EQ/D-Bol. Use Rimi with it and you'll eliminate the bloat. Eating clean helps too.

Thats so true. I find carbs are the key regulator of pumps and to a lesser degree bloat with dbol. I don't know why but they are both way more managable when I'm on reduced carbs.

 

[BigTmMan009]

You could try tbol instead of dbol less bloat.

 

[Makavelli]

Thats so true. I find carbs are the key regulator of pumps and to a lesser degree bloat with dbol. I don't know why but they are both way more managable when I'm on reduced carbs.

I don't get acne when I use D-Bol and diet. But when I bulk and eat lots of carbs I'll breakout on the back of my shoulders. Thankfully it doesn't affect my face. Just goes to show that insulin is inflammatory.

 

[slat1]

I just started this:
test ent 500mgs ew 1 - 10
EQ 400mgs ew 1 - 10
*Pct of HCG and nolva
*arimidex .5mgs ed
Ran this once before and loved it.
Currently:
32 y/o
6'3"
240
9.8%

 

[a-bomb5083]

i'd use both if you have means of doing so. but run the test and eq the same lengths.

week 1-14 cyp 500mg/week
week 1-14 eq 400mg/week
week 1-5 dbol 30mg/day
week 10-14 winny 50mg/day
week 1-14 a-dex .5/day
proper pct.

that cycle should do you very well.

 

[Texas Ranger]

I just started this:
test ent 500mgs ew 1 - 10
EQ 400mgs ew 1 - 10
*Pct of HCG and nolva
*arimidex .5mgs ed
Ran this once before and loved it.
Currently:
32 y/o
6'3"
240
9.8%

Good advice here!