Thanks for all your help guys. Dont fuking tell me I need to lose weight first I know this. If you would have read deply 12 19 or 22 you would have seen that. I stated I am going to cut to get into shape for my first cycle in my fisrt post. Mr x missunderstood that I was going to cut while on cycle but have said for the fourth time now that I am going to cut so when I do run my cycle I am in good shape.
If you are going to jump an the newb bashing bandwagon like everyone else then don't reply. I am here to learn so dont pass judgement. Even if a person over 20% would decide to go an a cycle it is TOTALLY up to them. Not everyones goal is to be ripped and huge. There are plenty of pro football players, especially lineman considered fat, and flabby strength competitors that benefit greatly from aas. There is no maximum level for bodyfat for the use of gear. If you have found a post that states these guidelines please give us a link. Once again, I am stating that I am going to cut before I start my cycle. Even if I was to start my cycle at 19%, the newly built muscle would help burn more fat efficiently.
As for me I have been lifting for almost 10 yrs and turn 25 this summer. I did not guestimate my body fat. I have been tested numerous times by my doc. I also have a caliper, scale that measures and a hand held tester.
Physically my stats are arms 19.5" Chest 48" Thighs 27" Forearms 14.5", Calves 18". As for doing "MONTHS OF CARDIO" fuck that. Just because someone weighs the same as you at a foot shooter doesn't mean its not true. I just finished a very unclean bulking diet. Whatever I felt like eating I did. Its not like I carry 19% year round. This is the fatest I have ever been and I cary 19 % very well. For competitive bodybuilding 19% is very offseason. For your average joe 19% is not too far from the norm. Other than a little love handle I would not say any part of me is flabby. I have benched 430 before and also have maxed on icline close to 400. I squated 550 in highschool but have had back problems so I dont do squats anymore. I played linebacker at college but it was not worth the time and effort. It got in the way of my lifting.
Just because someone is new to this board does not mean they are new to body building. I am new to this board and my first experince has not been good so far. So please keep your judgment to yourself and read the whole board before replying. Thank you all who have something beneficial.