Test enanthate....

[e2]

I'm wondering a few things about this ester, now it seems very strange to me that the majority of my friends who take this ester end up with side effects, even at low doses. Gyno, serious acne, etc etc... What i'm thinking to myself is that people are underestimating the half life of the ester, most people think it's 7 days, but i think it's longer. I think we're shooting too much and the doseage is building up over the cycle.

Has anyone else noticed the same thing in them or in friends?? What can you attribute the side effects to??



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[DianaBallBusta]

Thats an interesting thought. I've never tried enanthate but some of my friends have used the Tornel T200. I always thought that the reason they had bad sides was because the T200 was maybe a dirty batch. They were taking about 600mg/week. One of my buddies took 200mg every five days for 8 weeks and saw excellent results, with almost no side effects. I bet the half-life is closer to 10-14 days than 7.

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[Deepsquat]

I have taken the T200 and didn't get any side effect from it...was doing 6oo mgs a week last cycle.I fact I don't thing I gained any muscle with it either.
But when my friend uses that crap he breakes out with zits across his back in about three days..but if he uses one witha different ester he does not break out...Maybe you are right it could be the half life ....or it could be that the the stuff is crap.

 

[WCP]

Good thought here...Im going to run 1g of aratest starting next month for my winter cycle, my first thought was to run 2cc's every 3 days due to the prop, but being it only 50mg that probably wont really matter much. Im betting that the release of this ester is much slower than we thought..

Let me throw this to you...considering the half life and sides of enanthate, I would like your opinions on the scheduling of the injections.

Peace,
WCP

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[e2]

You may be right Big Rick, i've always shot it every 3 days and never had a problem, but it seems a lot of my fellows have.

As for mex steroids, i won't touch tornel or Brovel crap, and a lot of the acne the guys are experiencing is due to unsanitary pharmaceuticals.



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[Geared]

I just finished meaning last saturday was my last injection of Tornel Test.200 depot, and i gained strength, hardly any size and no sides at all, i was injecting 2cc's for five weeks, low dose but it was my first ever cycle. One week later i still have my strength but i partied all weekend and didn't eat properly so i lost about five pounds. What i read in Anabolics 2000 was it stayed in the system 14 days to up to three weeks.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

Some of the sides are definitely attributable to Mexican gear.

I believe that the half life of enanthate is like 13-14 days....but I'll see if I can confirm that or disprove it.

Matt

 

[Curious II]

I took reforvit for 8 weeks straight...saw little to no-side effects. Minor, minor acne and some testicular shrinkage. Other than that...nada. I just finished off two and a half bottles of test and noticed some swelling in my nips and more severe acne than the reforvit. Seems odd that D-bol would cause no gyno probs but the small dose of test I took would. I took 600mgs for 5 weeks and then 400 for 4. I began to wonder this myself because if you are taking a shot that lasts 7-10 days, every three days...it has to build up somewhere...

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[Big Brother Val]

While I took enanthate, I saw only mild growth, water retention, and test. shrinkage. I took shots every 3rd day, giving me 600 mgs a week in a one week period.
I saw no major side effects, nor did the 2 bro's of mine taking it as well.
However, I did take the infamous Brovel brand, which may have been 20% water. So that may also be a factor.

 

[smackdog]

I am with you E2. I finished a cycle of Test Enanthate about 3 weeks ago and I never get acne on my back and I still have it breaking out on me. I have tanning beds and I use them they go away and come right back when I don't use them.

 

[Tomo]

Just finished enanthate twice a week as part of a cycle- usual problems, acne on back,and other side effects-problem is I never used enanthate alone so it was hard to pinpoint problem. other than side effects I believe I get good results breaking up into smaller dose twice a week

 

[chesty]

I used the t200 at 400-1000mg with no real side effects, no more than when using sust.

 

[1abbig]

I took the tornel t200 at 600mg week , and 2 cc ref b ED. the only sides i noted was mild acne and oily skin. gains were pretty good.

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[conan69]

I have always injected every 3 days and i believe that helps. the "low theory" is very credible i think, i am not a chemist but can detect what is going on in my body
as for the half life i believe it to be closer to 10-14 days as well. I have seen doctors prescribe it with orders to inject every 2 weeks!

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[mike001]

i was injecting 1000mgs at one shot per week.. all i got was acne. i was stupid back then and i only had two bottles, so it lasted 4 weeks and i wasted the shit

 

[massive696969]

Frequency of injections was something I always used to ponder about. From friends reports as well as the reports and comments we have in this thread it is safe to say that injection frequency is an important aspect of the whole gear coarse.

One of the things you often hear guys say is, Test Prop is a great contest drug due to the fact that it doesn't aromatize as much or give you the bulking season sides you don't want with Test ie( acne water retention gyno etc).

That seems silly to me. I think it is just due to the fact that people use less when prepping for a contest and also something we hit on here, which is that the injection frequency gives you a steady supply with out all the peaks and vallies. this as E2 stated could be the reason why you get sides on Enanthate.

Unfortunatley due to the pin cushion syndrome not being everyones favorite we see a lot of guys opt to use longer acting esters and sust especially. My advice would be to use a prop or suspension and inject the desired daily amount. If you want 1gram per week inject 150mg of either daily. I know I know ouch!!!!!!! I am only saying this would probably yield better results and give you the most even levels in your body.

Now one thing I noticed as i was writing this is that people are going to say that shooting all the suspension will give you worse sides than 2 grams of enanthate. This I don't know about. It all depends on the individual. I will say this though, 1 gram of suspension a week broken up into daily injections will PROBABLY yield better results than 2 500mg shots of Enanthate.

Massive

 

[Badkins21]

Since the Aratest has 50 mg propionate AND 200 mg enanthate, when would y'all inject, say, 500 mg/week...250 every 3 days, or not??

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[OMEGALOS]

Among the few cycles I've done I have to concur that the singular time I used test.enant.around 400/wk, I saw some major pimples I have not experienced with any other test since. The gains were good though.

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[livinbig]

I agree that injections frequency is the key..From my experience and that of my freinds. I showed more sides when I inject 1 or 2 per week and less on more gear when injecting 3-5 per week..I am going to do some rearranging with future cycles and let my body tell me what is going on....

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[George Spellwin]

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