Test E, Winny cycle log

[Fitch12]

A little background: I'm in my early thirties and have been lifting consistently for about 15 years (never bodybuilding, always sport specific). This will be my first cycle in about 10 years. I did a couple half ass cycles in my early twenties. I'm transitioning out of traditional sports and trying to lean up, get stronger, and maybe put on a few pounds.

My cycle:
Test E 400mg/wk weeks 1-12
Winny 50mg/day weeks 7-14
Nolva 40/40/20/10 weeks 16-20

I have Adex on hand if needed.

Current stats:
210 pounds
bodyfat unknown. Have a hydro bf test scheduled next week.

 

[Fitch12]

Forgot to mention diet....

3500 calories 45/35/20% protein/fat/carbs

 

[Saiyan7]

Not too bad of a cycle and I think you can easily add a few pounds while leaning out. I think you should consider adding clomid to your pct however. Have you looked into it before?

 

[Lev Butlerov]

All in all, the cycle looks good, but there are a couple of changes that need to be made.

1. First of all, you should be using an AI right from the beginning, and not just have it on hand. It is meant to prevent side effects from occurring, not to deal with them and palliate their consequences. Therefore, since you already got some arimidex, use 0,5 mgs EOD from the first day of the cycle. However, I would strongly recommend you to get some aromasin instead, since it is much better than arimidex in each and every regard.

2. Winstrol is liver toxic, no matter if you take it orally, or inject it. Therefore, you need to be using some good liver supporting supplement with it. For instance, N2Guard would be the best choice, since it has the best ingredient profile.

3. Your PCT protocol is extremely weak. Remember, if you want to keep the gains made on cycle, and want a smooth recovery, you need a much more complete PCT than just nolva and clomid. Do the perfect PCT protocol for best results - http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

Follow this suggestions, and your cycle will improve in quality big time.

 

[muskate]

I agree 100% with everything Lev pointed out above ^^^^

You need to run your AI from day 1 of your cycle. Having it on hand makes no sense. Once the side effects have occurred, they have already occurred. Your AI on hand didn't help you at all.

One tip to add onto all of Lev's suggestions - winstrol makes a lot of people experience joint pain. If your joints start to feel tight and sore on the winstrol, start supplementing with 6-10g of fish oil per day. Fish oil is an extremely strong natural anti-inflammatory and will help lubricate the joints, reducing inflammation and pain.

 

[stevesmi]

Lev summed it up right. If you want to avoid estrogen problems run your AI from day 1.

and if you want to keep your gains please run a better PCT then that.

 

[MasonicBodybuilder]

Good suggestions made already. You look like you are at a good place to add some mass and cut if you diet properly for it. Good luck with your cycle brother!

 

[Jay Scott]

All in all, the cycle looks good, but there are a couple of changes that need to be made.1. First of all, you should be using an AI right from the beginning, and not just have it on hand. It is meant to prevent side effects from occurring, not to deal with them and palliate their consequences. Therefore, since you already got some arimidex, use 0,5 mgs EOD from the first day of the cycle. However, I would strongly recommend you to get some aromasin instead, since it is much better than arimidex in each and every regard. 2. Winstrol is liver toxic, no matter if you take it orally, or inject it. Therefore, you need to be using some good liver supporting supplement with it. For instance, N2Guard would be the best choice, since it has the best ingredient profile. 3. Your PCT protocol is extremely weak. Remember, if you want to keep the gains made on cycle, and want a smooth recovery, you need a much more complete PCT than just nolva and clomid. Do the perfect PCT protocol for best results - http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/Follow this suggestions, and your cycle will improve in quality big time.

Unfortunately have to agree on all these three points. And also kinda think you hopped on gear a bit too early. But its never too late to make some fixes and get good gains