Test E Tren Dbol Cycle Need Advice

[don-a-ron]

Wats up Guys!
I am planning to do my first Cycle in a couple of Weeks.
I got
2 bottles of Eurochem Test e 10ml 250 mg/ml,
3 bottles of British Dragon Trenabol Depot (tren hex) 10ml 100mg/ml
500+ Thai 5mg dbol tabs
90 Proviron sheering 25mg tabs
and plenty of zinc as aromatase inhibitor
on deck. And the Cycle will look like this:

week 1-10 500mg Test E , split dose Mon/thur
Week 1-10 300mg Tren Hex , split dose Mon/Thur
Week 1-6 60mg Dbol ED
Week 1-10 25mg Proviron ED
Week 1-13 120mg Zinc ED as Aromatase Inhibitor

And Pct will be aromatase inhibitor , Testo booster

Any Thoughts/Advice?

 

[squatzilla]

Here we go again: Age, height, weight, max lifts, training history & goals please.

I WILL NOT advise, since I don't know if you're 21 yrs old, but I will say that that cycle is way too much.

 

[don-a-ron]

Here we go again: Age, height, weight, max lifts, training history & goals please.

I WILL NOT advise, since I don't know if you're 21 yrs old, but I will say that that cycle is way too much.

Here is my stats.
Age 22
Height 6 foor 4 inches
weight 210 pounds
max lifts on bench 200 pounds
training history , about 4 years steady
And my goals are simply to bulk up as much as possible in 10 weeks and keep as much as possible you know.
But how is this cycle to much?

 

[squatzilla]

I advise you to not use steroids @ this time. You can still make great gains in size/strength.

Look into a 5x5 program. You can't even Bench your weight. Steroids will create serious issues w/ connective tissues/ligaments. Get strong naturall 1st.

FORGET TREN & the DBol is way too much.

"And my goals are simply to bulk up as much as possible in 10 weeks"-this is the problem. These things take YEARS of hard work, not a few weeks.

PM me: I can help if you are teachable.

 

[Power36]

Sounds like a troll to me...he cant be serious can he? A first cycle with tons of tren and D bol? 6'4 at 210 pounds is a skinny minny twig.....and I dont care how tall or how much you weigh, if you cant bench 225 for reps at any size, you dont need to consider roids.....try some protein shakes, creatine, beta alanine, EFAs, BCAAs...and like someone said a good 5x5 program, lots of PBJ sandwiches, tuna, eggs, and weight gain shakes with ice cream and real milk plus protein powder, for at least a year....if you cant make gains, its your training...

 

[don-a-ron]

I advise you to not use steroids @ this time. You can still make great gains in size/strength.

Look into a 5x5 program. You can't even Bench your weight. Steroids will create serious issues w/ connective tissues/ligaments. Get strong naturall 1st.

FORGET TREN & the DBol is way too much.

"And my goals are simply to bulk up as much as possible in 10 weeks"-this is the problem. These things take YEARS of hard work, not a few weeks.

PM me: I can help if you are teachable.

I am not saying I want to become ronnie in 10 weeks, I know it takes years, and I will continue to hit the gym until Jesus returns big homie.
But what if I leave the Tren out, half the dosage on the dbol and run it with Test only, how about that?

 

[squatzilla]

I still stand behind my previous post. You're not ready. However, you are an adult & are free to do as you please. I've been where you are at, so I know what i'm talking about.

 

[don-a-ron]

I still stand behind my previous post. You're not ready. However, you are an adult & are free to do as you please. I've been where you are at, so I know what i'm talking about.

Ok, maybe your right but Ill take my chances. I will make a new thread about my results and maybe some pics.
But thanks for the advice anyways big homie.

 

[crushtime]

If your going to do a cycle regardless of what the good dudes at EF tell you, at least don't take the tren on your first cycle. I have yet to take tren probably because you don't know how you will react to it until you take it. This being your first cycle, you don't really have the experience and/or knowledge on what to do if you get some really nasty sides. Then you will have to PM people on here and maybe have to wait half a day to get a response. So take the tren out of your mind...

Keep it simple on your first...

Try to wait if you can, don't be a wh*re and pop your che*ry on a whim haha

 

[don-a-ron]

If your going to do a cycle regardless of what the good dudes at EF tell you, at least don't take the tren on your first cycle. I have yet to take tren probably because you don't know how you will react to it until you take it. This being your first cycle, you don't really have the experience and/or knowledge on what to do if you get some really nasty sides. Then you will have to PM people on here and maybe have to wait half a day to get a response. So take the tren out of your mind...

Keep it simple on your first...

Try to wait if you can, don't be a wh*re and pop your che*ry on a whim haha

damn yall got me scared of the tren now hehe , and I have heard alot about the so called tren cough so aiit i will leave the tren out .
Thanks for the heads Up bro!

 

[crushtime]

yezzir...before you start...whats your diet look like right now? how many meals, protein intake, carb intake, supplements, and sleep pattern

 

[crushtime]

be truthful

 

[don-a-ron]

yezzir...before you start...whats your diet look like right now? how many meals, protein intake, carb intake, supplements, and sleep pattern

to be truthful bro. Right now, I am not dieting at all. I am planning to start dieting the same day I start my cycle, you know. And since I am bulking, my diet will simply be, to eat as much as I can, you know, and I read that Tren turns more food into muscle and less into fat, how awsome is that? so I am still very tempted because I have the ''nr1 competition steroid'' aka parabolan on deck. And I am also planning to buy ALOT of Protein, you know. Im thinkin maybe 150-200 grams or even more worth of protein shakes Plus ALOT of food. What do you think about that?

 

[crushtime]

Why don't you wait a few months for the juice man.

Give your body a chance to build and grow naturally simply by fueling it with what it needs.

Try your plan of eating like a horse without the juice and see just how much mass you put on.

You can grow without steroids, I promise you.

 

[don-a-ron]

Why don't you wait a few months for the juice man.

Give your body a chance to build and grow naturally simply by fueling it with what it needs.

Try your plan of eating like a horse without the juice and see just how much mass you put on.

You can grow without steroids, I promise you.

I know you can grow without gear bro, it just takes aloooot more time and thats the issue. what like 10 pounds a year vs 25-50 pounds in three months with NO Sides whatsoever ? come on bro. besides I am not planning to live off of roids, I simply want to jump start my bodybuilding as a lifestyle, you know. and as far as side effects, the only side i would be prone to on test would be that gyno, but an aromatase inhibitor = problem solved, and a couple of dbols a day has never killed anyone right? But Yall made me doubt the tren thou, I wish I done baught deca Instead. however I respect your advices but there is no turnin back for me on this one.
Thanks anyways bro , appreciate it

 

[thelocal]

there is always sides..so get the idea of being side free out,they may not appear to years later but everything has a risk..and i have to agree with crush..if you can not commit to a diet now and train yourself on how to diet your not going to have the results u want when u jump on cycle..dont get the wrong idea u can still get fat form any gear..its all abotu diet and cardio

 

[crushtime]

do you have an actual PCT planned then?

 

[GOLUAN]

Hes going to do the cycle regardless of what we say..so might as well give him the advise he needs.

Drop the tren.
Dbol is to much
Replace the tren with deca

1-4 40mg of dbol
1-10 500mg of test
1-10 400mg of deca

 

[don-a-ron]

do you have an actual PCT planned then?

Yes of course bro. the good ol nolva&clomid +aromatase inhibitor and testobooster. That should do it right?

 

[don-a-ron]

there is always sides..so get the idea of being side free out,they may not appear to years later but everything has a risk..and i have to agree with crush..if you can not commit to a diet now and train yourself on how to diet your not going to have the results u want when u jump on cycle..dont get the wrong idea u can still get fat form any gear..its all abotu diet and cardio

diet and cardio? bro Im trying to run a heavy bulking cycle here, not burn fat.
The only cardio i will be doing is the 5-10 min warmup before lifting. And my diet will be a high carb high protein one. I will try to eat as much as possible but the same time as clean as possible. And as far sides go, what kind of sides are you talking about when you said ''sides can come years later''?

 

[don-a-ron]

Hes going to do the cycle regardless of what we say..so might as well give him the advise he needs.

Drop the tren.
Dbol is to much
Replace the tren with deca

1-4 40mg of dbol
1-10 500mg of test
1-10 400mg of deca

ait ait I c u. Looks good bro. damn I regret buying the tren now, the deca would have been cheaper too. I did compare and read alot about tren and deca. I was lured by the facts that Tren is supposed to be 5 times as potent as Test, that tren has a hardening effect the body and that it(parabolan) turns more food into muscle and less into fat, i was like wow thinkin tren destroys deca, and I c u on the dbol to, 40 should be enough, i was thinkin the more the better but maybe thats just the novice in me. But aiit bro I think I'll drop the tren n copy the cycle you suggested and see where it takes me. Thanks alot bro preciate it. But Im just curious, what kind sides could I suffer runnin tren on a first cycle?

 

[GOLUAN]

No your good bro. Just save the tren for a few cycles later. Your going to want to cut down later anyways. So think of it as a investment for a later time. Just order you a couple more bottles of Deca and your GTG...

Do a little more research on the tren and go from there. You just want to know how your body reacts to gear before going all out on your first cycle. You have to prep for it. Make sure you have all the AI's on hand and DEF make sure you are ready for the sides.

 

[DbeezyPro]

Definitely save the tren for a later cycle maybe like your third or 4. It's got nasty sides that you don't know how you will react to. And stacking that with test. Your brain/body won't know what to do and that could fuck your live up. I am doing a first cycle of winny 50 mgs a day and am gaining nice size strength. 10 lbs in 3 weeks so far with no sides. Diet is crucial and i hit the gym everyday. You might like that as a first cycle I know I do

 

[don-a-ron]

No your good bro. Just save the tren for a few cycles later. Your going to want to cut down later anyways. So think of it as a investment for a later time. Just order you a couple more bottles of Deca and your GTG...

Do a little more research on the tren and go from there. You just want to know how your body reacts to gear before going all out on your first cycle. You have to prep for it. Make sure you have all the AI's on hand and DEF make sure you are ready for the sides.

aiit I feel you bro. I will run the cycle you suggested and save the tren for later.
Thanks for the help bro and Big up!

 

[don-a-ron]

My New first cycle will look like this

1-4 40mg of dbol
1-10 500mg of test
1-10 400mg of deca
8-10 50mg of oral winstrol

pct - clomid + aromatase inhibitor + testobooster

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Thanks to big bro goluan for words of wisdom.

Long live the Gym!!!

 

[don-a-ron]

Definitely save the tren for a later cycle maybe like your third or 4. It's got nasty sides that you don't know how you will react to. And stacking that with test. Your brain/body won't know what to do and that could fuck your live up. I am doing a first cycle of winny 50 mgs a day and am gaining nice size strength. 10 lbs in 3 weeks so far with no sides. Diet is crucial and i hit the gym everyday. You might like that as a first cycle I know I do

Yeah bro, I have decided to save the tren for later. better late than sorry.

 

[gymjunkie09]

Hes going to do the cycle regardless of what we say..so might as well give him the advise he needs.

Drop the tren.
Dbol is to much
Replace the tren with deca

1-4 40mg of dbol
1-10 500mg of test
1-10 400mg of deca

*Extend the test 2 weeks
*get some liquid prami for prolactin issues
*drop the nolva for pct

This is a good outline as far a gear goes but you need to get your cycle support in order so you're not wondering why you wanna bang everything movin but can't get your peepee hard lol...or why you used nolva for pct and got gyno. There is a reason nobody recommends deca or tren for a first cycle



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[don-a-ron]

*Extend the test 2 weeks
*get some liquid prami for prolactin issues
*drop the nolva for pct

This is a good outline as far a gear goes but you need to get your cycle support in order so you're not wondering why you wanna bang everything movin but can't get your peepee hard lol...or why you used nolva for pct and got gyno. There is a reason nobody recommends deca or tren for a first cycle



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Extending the test with 2weeks was exactly what I was planning to do but forgot to mention.
And Yeah since Im using an aromatase inhibitor there wont be no need for nolva cause there wont by any estrogen to block. And the test should protect me against the so called deca-d*ck right? Or will I need somethin against progesterone?

 

[gymjunkie09]

Extending the test with 2weeks was exactly what I was planning to do but forgot to mention.
And Yeah since Im using an aromatase inhibitor there wont be no need for nolva cause there wont by any estrogen to block. And the test should protect me against the so called deca-d*ck right? Or will I need somethin against progesterone?

the test is not the answer for deca dick...it will just help mask it. You need something to lower prolactin levels...liquid prami or dostinex

you can get the liquid prami from chemicalneeds.com and dostinex is a little harder to come by

 

[don-a-ron]

the test is not the answer for deca dick...it will just help mask it. You need something to lower prolactin levels...liquid prami or dostinex

you can get the liquid prami from chemicalneeds.com and dostinex is a little harder to come by

Aiit, I will try to get something against prolactin. Thanks for the help bro!