Test E + SD kicker + Epi

[95Birdman]

Alright well I'm getting into the final stages of starting my upcoming cycle. I have all my support supps that I'm going to need. I'm starting to preload my cycle supports now. I am going to run an injectable Test E, with a SD kickstart, and end with Epistane. So it will look something like:


(I want to wait one week between Test and SD just to "test the test")
Weeks 1-15 - 500mg/week Test E (weeks 6-10 will be solo Test) 500mg pinned once a week
Weeks 2,3,4,5 - 20mg/daily SD
Weeks 11,12,13,14,15,16 - 60mg/daily Epistane

I'll be eating like a horse on the SD side, and cutting back cals on the Epistane side. Since I'm running 2 methyls split apart, the entire time I'll have a high dose of Liv52 liver support plus my cycle supports. My diet is not going to be down to the number, but I'll have at least 300g protein daily, and at least 4500 calories, which I'll bring down on my Epi run. I'm currently 215lbs 6'0". I'm aiming for 240+lbs (and then cutting down to probably 230)

PCT immediately after the end of Epi will be Nolva at probably 40/40/30/20/20 plus support supps. Aromisin on hand if any gyno begins to flare up, and will be 12.5mg/EOD or ED. Dose will be adjusted as required. Should I add Clomid, or will Nolva work? Should I get HCG?

The time between SD and Epistane, is there anything I should throw in there? It'll just be solo Test for a few weeks, which is fine, but is there anything different I should do during those weeks?

 

[RickRock13]

What is your age, and current bodyfat?

 

[95Birdman]

Sorry I forgot I'm new here, my other forums have my stats. I'm 24, and about 15-17% body fat. This will be my 2nd cycle. I had a 6 week cycle of Epistane about 8 months ago that was great!

 

[dylangemelli]

your body fat is a bit high and you may want to bring it down a bit before you start your cycle...

drop nolva... its complete shit...

pct
clomid 25/25/25/25
unleashed/post cycle combo
forma stanzol
daa powerchews...

as far as on cycle... make sure you are using n2guard when you are running orals... you must protect yourself with more than just liver support... especially with superdrol...

you are running test quite a long time... you need to start superdrol from week 1, not week 2...

1-12 test e 500 mg wk
1-12 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-4 superdrol 20/20/20/30
1-4 n2guard
7-14 hcg 500 ius week or hcgenerate
9-14 epi

 

[95Birdman]

I was on the edge of adding Clomid also, but not sure if it was needed. I will have CELCycle Assist plus the Liv52 liver support also. Would you suggest N2Guard in addition to those two? I plan to run the CEL Cycle Assist through the whole cycle.

 

[dylangemelli]

the cel cycle assist is fine... you don't need n2guard as well... its one or the other...

 

[95Birdman]

Cool, yeah I didn't list it in the previous post, but I've got it. I'm pretty much ready to start, just need to pick up some HCG (been ready to buy it for awhile). And this is the first time I've personally been recommended Forma. What added benefit on top of all other supps will Forma give?

Also the reason I planned 15 weeks is after 12 weeks I'll have leftover oil. Might as well use it all.

 

[dylangemelli]

thats up to you man but there's no reason to run the test any longer than 12 weeks... your just making recovery time longer... there's not enough benefit for the extra 3 weeks that outweighs having to recover longer...

 

[Keith1]

To many orals bro
Give your liver a break

 

[95Birdman]

thats up to you man but there's no reason to run the test any longer than 12 weeks... your just making recovery time longer... there's not enough benefit for the extra 3 weeks that outweighs having to recover longer...

Thanks for your advice! I'll see how I'm feelin when that time comes.

Just waiting on my pins to start next week or the following