Test E or Sust for my 1st cycle?

[McFakerton]

Plan is 250 mg E5D. Should that be Test E, or Sustanon? Also, since my poll isn't getting too many votes, should I grab some finasteride to go along with it, or should my slowly balding ass be OK? (Meaning the hair isn't going to just jump off my skull)

Test E get recomended a lot, but I notice a TON of cycles on here where people are running Sust as their test source. I only plan on doing an 8 week cycle.

Also, I'll have Nolva on hand for the cycle and PCT, but since my dosage is relatively low, will PCT be totally necc, or can I just save the Nolva in case I start getting Gyno or whatnot?

Thanks in advance, -McFakerton

 

[Harj10]

PCT IS necc...if you wanan keep your gains nolva and clomid is what im going to do

 

[McFakerton]

The thing I never understood with PCT is the Nolva bit. If your Test levels are lowering, then why do you need an anti-e? There should be less test to aromatize into estrogen.

I'd think you want to take something to up your natural test levels quicker (Clomid?) and save the Nolva for the chance that you get E sides. Or am I totally off base?

 

[McFakerton]

I'd actually like to do 4 weeks of DBol to kickstart the cycle, but I hear that's harsh on the ole hairline.

So far I'm not noticably bald, but it is going. Freaking mother's genetics...

 

[ap282]

The thing I never understood with PCT is the Nolva bit. If your Test levels are lowering, then why do you need an anti-e? There should be less test to aromatize into estrogen.

I'd think you want to take something to up your natural test levels quicker (Clomid?) and save the Nolva for the chance that you get E sides. Or am I totally off base?

When your test levels fall after a cycle your estrogen levels are still high. As your levels of AAS test fall your estrogen is still rising. Nolva simply blocks your estrogen receptors from accepting estrogen to attach to them. Nolva and Clomid work well together, while Clomid helps turn on your natty test, your blocking estrogen sides with nolva.

 

[McFakerton]

Ah. Thanks man. K to thineself.

 

[McFakerton]

Bump before bed..

 

[Bozwell]

some folks loved sust(me)some test e, some test c ,or prop
I did sust e5d for 8 weeks my first cycle and I kept about 12 lbs
Id go with sust e3d for 10 weeks with some proviron
Im on 250mg eod with 50-75mg of proviron ed and loving it getting stronger every workout
I ve done e5d shots e3d shot and now trying eod day shots ..you know whats next ..e3d and eod are MUCH better then e5d with no real differance in side effects
also get some hcg for pct
do this a week after youre last sust or test shot
hcg 500ius eod with 20mg of tamoxifen for 3 weeks then 3 weeks of just tamoxifen @20mg

 

[scout69]

I always get good results from SuS and it was my Second cycle ever and got great gains ever since than i've used it numerous times and always nice results...

 

[stuck]

For an 8 weeker I would use enth. If you bumped it to 10, I'd say sust is an option. But for only 8 weeks, I'd def go enth.

 

[Bruce]

i wouldn't run test less then 12 personally 10 is the minimum and still not gonna give the most gains you can get

 

[jetty]

Sust 250 sucks in my opinion. Especially for first cycle. the BA and Prop crippled me for 5 days and you have to injection frequently. I stay with Test E or Cyp.

 

[Bruce]

scout is ma boy, but i agree sust 250 sucks. it is not a good bbing steroid. there is alot of research to back this. cyp or enth are the best choices. or personally i like test e with some prop in there, though i probably will not touch test again unless it is prop.

 

[Neo22]

scout is ma boy, but i agree sust 250 sucks. it is not a good bbing steroid. there is alot of research to back this. cyp or enth are the best choices. or personally i like test e with some prop in there, though i probably will not touch test again unless it is prop.

you have ran cycles before?

 

[Bruce]

you have ran cycles before?

yes i have run many compounds, no i do not want to be much bigger than i am. all i care about is being ripped, mass means nothing to me if its not shredded. currently 185 6-7%bf. ive ran deca and winny loved it gained 22lbs, had to have surgery on my gallbladder and lost all of it. i'm a hardcore ecto, if i don't eat 5000cals in a day i lose weight. i was just a dumb newb back then though and should not have been on aas. had no clue about diet then and i'm surprised i gained. i ran test and deca in january and crashed really hard after and only came out with about 10lbs after two pct runs. i have a 28 inch waist and a tiny frame. if i go above a 42 long suit size or 30 inch waist my comp card for modeling is fucked and i'll lose most jobs. i was 125 as a frosh in college bro at 6 feet tall. grew to 6 3 at age 20, was about 140, ive fought for every damn pound ive gotten

 

[Slyder190]

I think that unless your shootin Sus at least 3x a week or EOD (Which is way too much for a 1st cycle), it's not a great choice. I'd run the Enan split 2x a week. You'll get a more cnsistent blood levels with it. Sus tkaes 3 weeks to clear anyway. 2 weeks is long enough as is with the Enan.

 

[zouave]

i've done both and would definitely do the E. bc the sus is a mixture, some of its compounds work alot faster than the E, but some of them take almost as long. you could get the kickstart at the begining by running sus for a couple of weeks and transitioning into the E

 

[melochai]

Depends on how fast you want your test to kick in and if you waqnt it to ease into your system or give you a jumpstart. It'd different for everybody. I have only used BD's Andropen 275 (kinda like sustanon), rn it with deca and ended up at the end of 10 weeks being about 32 lbs heavier than when I started. I kinda wanna try the Test E, and Test P just to be able to compare them. Dunno if I can handle the Test P frequent injections.. I'm a big sissy! Test is Test....kinda lol

 

[mr. snakes]

Plan is 250 mg E5D. Should that be Test E, or Sustanon? Also, since my poll isn't getting too many votes, should I grab some finasteride to go along with it, or should my slowly balding ass be OK? (Meaning the hair isn't going to just jump off my skull)

Test E get recomended a lot, but I notice a TON of cycles on here where people are running Sust as their test source. I only plan on doing an 8 week cycle.

Also, I'll have Nolva on hand for the cycle and PCT, but since my dosage is relatively low, will PCT be totally necc, or can I just save the Nolva in case I start getting Gyno or whatnot?

Thanks in advance, -McFakerton

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