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Test E + (Dbol Vs Var)

eddie777

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(Re-done my previous thread)
Hey, this will be my first cycle im looking to bulk, however be hardened / vascular for the summer. I was thinking Test + Dbol however many have told me the water bloat is just too much for the summer. Others say Var + test, however will that give me solid gains and can i use it to bulk? will it keep the muscles hardened and vascular?
Thanks.

Goal : Bulk up while keeping lean / defined look.

Edit: is it possible to Dbol 1-4 Wk @ 30mg ED, then Var 8-12 Wk 60Mg ED or is that too much of a stack for a first cycle?
 
How many lbs are expected to gain on 500MG Test + 30Mg Dbol Vs 500Mg Test + 60Mg var?

That would depend on quality of gear, your diet, rest, your post cycle therapy, your job, your training, your age, your metabolism and how you respond to gear.
 
That would depend on quality of gear, your diet, rest, your post cycle therapy, your job, your training, your age, your metabolism and how you respond to gear.

Uhh Am i allowed to post lab names here? it would be from a reputable source, and i know that i stay the same weight by only eating a half a sandwich + dinner, so im obviously gonna be eating Beef / chicken throughout the day upping my calories by probably 3-4x as much as my maintnence.
 
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