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GymIntensity
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Hey bros, just wondering if nolvadex would be enough PCT for this cycle or would clomid and nolva both be needed or HCG also?
wk 1-10 Test E 250mg/week
wk 1-10 Test E 250mg/week
Test E cycle!!!!.........
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mr. snakes
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GymIntensity said:
Why the low dose? Your not going to be impressed with gains. Bump it up to the minimum 500mg/wk....................
bigcountry61
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mixed opinions in this thread.i would bump it to 500mgs ew and run nolva and clomid for pct
tiggerizme
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Might as well take it out to 12 wks as well and still run the same pct..
GymIntensity
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only reason for 250 is because 1. I dont want to "blow up" or get too big too fast, just nice gradual gains, also I feel like the gyno will come upon me hard if i run 500mg per week. maybe with nolva during cycle and run some aromasin also that will keep me non bloated and non gyno???
GymIntensity
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Neo22 said:Ya that makes sense your body will just recover.Fyi I only toook 1 week worth of test at 500mg and did a nolva/clomid pct and 9 months later i STILL HAVENT recovered.
HCG HCG HCG HCG HCG > ALL
dammit that sux
Castro_bigdog
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run proviron 25mg a day along with the test e at 500mg a week for 1-10
then 3 weeks after last shot start your clomid for 30 days you should be fine bro, if you can run the proviron at 25mg langer then do it 1-12 weeks.........
If you keep your diet in check and train right you will be very happy bro.....
Dont be cheap make sure you take kare of your body..........
then 3 weeks after last shot start your clomid for 30 days you should be fine bro, if you can run the proviron at 25mg langer then do it 1-12 weeks.........
If you keep your diet in check and train right you will be very happy bro.....
Dont be cheap make sure you take kare of your body..........
And you think one week of test did this! Your obviously not recovering from the use of nolva and clomid. Nor did you probably properly taper down like I suggested in my post.Neo22 said:Ya that makes sense your body will just recover.
HCG HCG HCG HCG HCG > ALL
njmuscleguy
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I'd do HCG + Nolva + AI (aromasin or AIFM) for almost any cycle....
I'd also bump up to 500mg/ week... and use an AI throughout to keep the bloat down (and nolvadex as necessary for gyno)
I'd also bump up to 500mg/ week... and use an AI throughout to keep the bloat down (and nolvadex as necessary for gyno)
What I'm saying is that if you gradually taper off test only cycles, you shouldn't crash the way your describing. The proof lies in the fact your saying you only took 2 shots. That's not tapering down. Of course your going to transiently fuck yourself up.Neo22 said:
GymIntensity
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gautho said:
LOL ---
so maybe week 9 - 12 do 250mg per week >?
GymIntensity
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gautho said:
how bout this gautho
wk1-10 250mg test e e/w
wk1-12 proviron 50mg ed
aromasin e/d (not sure of the dose??)
nolva when needed
wk 12-15 clomid/nolva
hows that look
I noticed in your other post, it's not your goal to blow up. By looking at that, you should be able to keep a nice therapeutic test level in you for quite some time. My pyriding up then gradually tapering down theory of course will not apply here for you since your only doing a mild 250mg dose week. Don't expect huge gains however, perhaps a 5-6 lbs will do. I usually don't use PCT stuff like HCG, nolva, clomid on small test cycles cause I don't believe at least for me to cause any problems. But it definitely can't hurt, it's a good insurance bro. I don't want people to think I'm anti PCT, I do use such products, however, I save it for my more complex cycles. The only point I've been trying to make here is this when running test only, remember just IMO:GymIntensity said:
week 1: test enan 250mg week
week 2: test enan250mg week
week 3: test enan 500mg week
week 4: test enan 500mg week
week 5: test enan 750mg week
week 6: test enan 1000mg week
week 7: test enan 750mg week
week 8: test enan 500mg week
week 9: test enan 500mg week
week 10: test enan 250mg week
week 11: test enan 125mg week
week 12: test enan 125mg week
If you already have the clomid, HCG, nolva, proviron, and it gives you that reassurance looks great! Good luck bro, take care of your hand. Notice my avatar, that was me bagging my state title!
MassDestruction
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Clomid is garbage.
GymIntensity
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boyer said:
thanks for that help bro. Ive gone from weighing 282lbs benchin 130 max to weighing 216lbs benching 285lb over a 4 year period. I know ALL about natural gains bro.
gautho said:
thanks Gauth, appreciate all your help bro. hands are slowly recovering.
ive still got some thinking to do whether i wanna run test e or anavar and proviron together
Bruce
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clomid is not garbage, some of the sides can be unpleasant but sometimes after a long cycle with deca included you need clomid to get the boys working again. tapering is a bad idea, you want blood levels the same, i would never do a cycle of test without using hcg at the end. pct is essential
The idea behind tapering is to keep blood levels the same by not experiencing an abrupt drop at end of cycle until your endogenous production kicks back in. PCT is helpful, but it's not magical, and it certainly isn't as potent for keeping your levels up compared to low dose test. Regardless, after exogenous hormone therapy your body will gradually resort to prehormone blood levels, just depends on what mode of therapy you want to slow it down.bruce410 said:
