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Test/dbol/tren/winny

IrishHandGrenade

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Currently doing 75mg ed tren ace, but I'm already planning my next cycle.

What do you guys think about this?

1-12 Test E 500mg wk
1-4 Dbol 40mg wk
6-12 Tren Ace 75mg ed
6-12 Winny 50mg ed

Would probably run AIFM and ALA throughout. With AIFM and clomid for pct.

Do you think running two orals in one cycle is too much?

Any other suggestions are very welcome.

Thanks
 
looks fine
orals for 12 weeks can be strenuous on the liver, but a lot of people do it.

you can run clomid and AIFM for PCT. the addition of HCG (low dose) would be a "kicker" though not essential.
 
tigerpower said:
Currently doing 75mg ed tren ace, but I'm already planning my next cycle.

What do you guys think about this?

1-12 Test E 500mg wk
1-4 Dbol 40mg wk
6-12 Tren Ace 75mg ed
6-12 Winny 50mg ed

Would probably run AIFM and ALA throughout. With AIFM and clomid for pct.

Do you think running two orals in one cycle is too much?

Any other suggestions are very welcome.

Thanks


if ur going test e you could go tren e as well for convience other then that looks pretty standrard
 
tigerpower said:
Currently doing 75mg ed tren ace, but I'm already planning my next cycle.

What do you guys think about this?

1-12 Test E 500mg wk
1-4 Dbol 40mg wk
6-12 Tren Ace 75mg ed
6-12 Winny 50mg ed

Would probably run AIFM and ALA throughout. With AIFM and clomid for pct.

Do you think running two orals in one cycle is too much?

Any other suggestions are very welcome.

Thanks

Looks pretty solid to me. Use some Arimidex thruout cycle,,,and dont forget PCT.
 
I've done cycles where i used d-bol in the begining for 8 weeks and used adrol at weeks 16 thru 24.....The key to this is the PCT....you can keep alot of your gains if your pct is right on point...

The key to doing to different orals in a cycle is longer cycles but switching gear at week 12.....for example..
Test cyp.deca or eq with d-bol for the first 12 weeks and then switching to something like prop,wiiny var,tren on the back end.....
12 weeks is not enough time to grow....i dont give a fuck what anyone tells you...its bullshit..IMO....your getting off when your actually starting to grow....
 
macrophage69alpha said:
looks fine
orals for 12 weeks can be strenuous on the liver, but a lot of people do it.

you can run clomid and AIFM for PCT. the addition of HCG (low dose) would be a "kicker" though not essential.
Great advice here.:coffee:
 
macrophage69alpha said:
you can run clomid and AIFM for PCT. the addition of HCG (low dose) would be a "kicker" though not essential.

FINALLY a straight answer on no HCG!
 
i am about to start my test enanthate 550mgs ew, tren 100mgs ed, and winstrol 50mg ed all for 8wks with adex and dostinex and i am going to run hcg,clomid and nolv for pct. I wouldnt do it any other way without it i crash like a mofo
 
medrep said:
FINALLY a straight answer on no HCG!

thats just generally, some people will need HCG or will fare much better with it.

PCT is just not cookie cutter, there are just a lot of variables and inividual variances..
 
I would run the winstrol later in the cycle. As you are on test e, it will stay in your system for at least 3 to 4 weeks after your last injection. I'd start your winny 3 weeks later, giving your liver time to rest, and keep running it for at least 3 weeks after your last test e injection. Then, the day after you pop your last winny pill, start up on the clomid. You may also want to do the same with the tren Acetate, or just use tren enanthate and mix it in the same needle with the test e.
I take it from your cycle your goal is to gain loads of lean muscle, if you don't do it this way your going to get cut, but once you stop the winny and tren, you will just be pretty much on a 4 week cycle of test e, which will probably cause some bloating and fat deposit and negate all the awesome cutting you just did.
Just one other point, have you used tren acetate before? If not, you probably won't need anywhere near as much. Back in the day, people used to get awesome results from 3 amps a week of parabolan (76mg per amp). Thats just 228mg a week. You'll be doing 525mg a week! Given that the rest of your cycle is pretty much at the higher end of the scale regarding dosage for any "normal" juicer, the tren a is way off the scale. Its equivelant in test would be about 1.5 grams, as tren is supposedly 3 times as strong on a mg for mg basis! In my experience, I would agree that the literature suggesting i is 3 times as strong is correct. I've used it three times now, been on gear for 6-7 years on and off, and only ever used at most 300mg a week. The results where awesome. In fact, my first ever tren cycle was almost identical to yours, only i used tren e (at 300mg week), and started the winny later in the day. I got amazing results. My abs looked awesome, all ripped and veiny as f**K, as where my arms and delts.
Just my 2 cents.
 
Test/dbol/tren/winny


Great basic cycle,

This cycle is a winner with what ever PCT you chose; your gains will be nice clean lean muscle.
 
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