test,dbol,deca cycle - need suggestions

[kpurohit]

2weeks back i just finished a 12week deca cycle with andriol(240mg/day) and winstrol(20mg/day). i would like to begin my next cycle maybe after a month or 6 weeks. meanwhile i would like some suggestions on my next cycle given below:

250mg enanthate/week - weeks 1 to 10
100mg deca/week - weeks 1 to 10
dbol(5mg tabs) - weeks 1 to 10 - start at 20mg/day pyramid upto 50mg/day by week 5 and then descend to 20mg/d by wk10.
10mg nolvadex/day throughout.
any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

i'm using dbol for the first time (this is not my first cycle). please comment.

 

[manny78]

Not enough gear to see results. Especially if it's your second cycle. Should look more like this:

Test 500mg week 1-8
deca 300mg week 1-8
Dbols 25-30mg ED week 1-5

Also, I'd rather take something like arimidex/liquidex than Novaldex.

 

[225mygoal]

i thought that enanthate was 200mg, I would bump upd the deca to 200 if you can. Are you going to do the dbol seven days or 5 days. Make sure you take milk thistle to protect that liver. Eat clean so you won't gain alot of fat. 2grams or protien per lb of body weight. Safe to say you are using this cyle for mass?

good luck

 

[kpurohit]

i thought that enanthate was 200mg, I would bump upd the deca to 200 if you can. Are you going to do the dbol seven days or 5 days. Make sure you take milk thistle to protect that liver. Eat clean so you won't gain alot of fat. 2grams or protien per lb of body weight. Safe to say you are using this cyle for mass?

good luck

thanks a lot for the the reply. bumping up the deca to 200/wk is alright for me. i'm taking dbol for 7 days a wk. also this cycle is intended to build mass.

 

[kpurohit]

Not enough gear to see results. Especially if it's your second cycle. Should look more like this:

Test 500mg week 1-8
deca 300mg week 1-8
Dbols 25-30mg ED week 1-5

Also, I'd rather take something like arimidex/liquidex than Novaldex.

first of all i'm very contended that the moderators are always here to help. thanks manny78.
this is not my second cycle. but anyway i would like to tell you that i was not happy with the previous12wk deca cycle results. i have a feeling that lesser dosages would also give me the same results. that is why i just want to stick to the minimum dosage this time for 8-10weeks. also arimidex is not accessible to me but nolvadex is always here. however if you strongly suggest arimidex then i have to find a source.
the above mentioned dosages seem alright for me but i'm worried about acne(i'm easily proven to acne). any suggestions will be appreciated.

 

[manny78]

first of all i'm very contended that the moderators are always here to help. thanks manny78.
this is not my second cycle. but anyway i would like to tell you that i was not happy with the previous12wk deca cycle results. i have a feeling that lesser dosages would also give me the same results. that is why i just want to stick to the minimum dosage this time for 8-10weeks. also arimidex is not accessible to me but nolvadex is always here. however if you strongly suggest arimidex then i have to find a source.
the above mentioned dosages seem alright for me but i'm worried about acne(i'm easily proven to acne). any suggestions will be appreciated.

I dont have your stats so it's all speculation for me. But another thing you could do would be to to take at least 200mg/week of deca (which is the absolute minimum for a man) and swap the dbols for some anavar. And since you have enanthate, then it would be 400mg instead of 500mg as I mentionned before. Or just take a minimum of 200mg of test and bump the deca to 300-400mg with var.

Both options would not create big acne issues IMHO.

 

[kpurohit]

manny78, I know that swapping dbol to anavar is safer but I already have the dbol in hand and btw anavar is not accessible to me. All I have to buy is the deca and test now.

also my stats: 5'7/21years/154pounds(70kg). i have done 3 to four cycles before.

just for your information the my deca comes in 2ml/200mg amps. hence i don't know how to split into 300mg dosage. or should i bump deca to 400mg? this is where i'm worried about gyno. i don't have gyno but the last time i did a deca cycle with 400mg I just got a feeling that i'm prone to gyno due to slight itching and irritation. i would not proceed further without much advice on this.
thanks anyway.

 

[kpurohit]

I like sustanon because of its long acting esters(ofcourse I have not used enanthate before). but the sustanon(infar) gave me one hell of pain and fever and i'm worried about that. I was limping for 2 to 3 days after every injection. I know it's because of the propionate, but I have hear that heating the amps before injecting can solve this problem. does it really work? if it does, is sustanon a really good choice over enanthate? which one should I go for with my cycle? plz advise.
also my previous cycle consisted of deca(12wk deca cycle). so does anyone recommend that I only stick on to a deac-dbol again? or a test-dbol cycle? or include all the three as I have given in the post above? I just felt like why am I using 3 if 2 can do the job? also what are the advantages with any modification to my cycle? plz comment.

 

[kpurohit]

Not enough gear to see results. Especially if it's your second cycle. Should look more like this:

Test 500mg week 1-8
deca 300mg week 1-8
Dbols 25-30mg ED week 1-5

Also, I'd rather take something like arimidex/liquidex than Novaldex.

don't you think that the dosages are too much for me(height 5'7, weight around 154 pounds, 21yrs)? since I don't have access to arimidex, I think nolva could do the job anyway @ 20mg/day throughout the cycle. also plz advise regarding PCT.

 

[manny78]

don't you think that the dosages are too much for me(height 5'7, weight around 154 pounds, 21yrs)? since I don't have access to arimidex, I think nolva could do the job anyway @ 20mg/day throughout the cycle. also plz advise regarding PCT.

Cutting the test in half would be ok IMHO. But I'd keep the Deca at 300mg and dbols at 25mg ED.

As for PCT, in this case I would do clomids for 2-3 weeks depending on how fast you recover. Maybe something like 100mg ED the first week then 50mg. Also creatine post-cycle is helpful.