Test Cyp or Test Enth

[marshallmadman]

I like cyp the best. Upjohn Cyp is far and away the best Testosterone I've ever used. If you look at all the threads that people complain about pain, swelling, and test flu there is usually Enanthate in the mix.

 

[dale_gribble]

Reading is all well and good, but interpretation is what counts. Go back over that link you provided, it says nothing about Cyp being longer acting or any of your references to test E. It is only compared to prop, and hopefully I don't have to tell you why that is.

And since you wanted to get a bit nasty about it, it is your problem, because apparantly your reading and or interpretation skills are lacking.

Not sure if you actually read the article, but it clearly states about half way down that cyp has always been considered slightly stronger than enanth, which is exactly what I stated much earlier. And I have felt the difference between the 2. So, I dont think its me thats misinterpreted anything here.

Testosterone cypionate is a long acting ester of testosterone which is increasingly difficult to find. Before the scheduling of anabolics in the U.S., this was the most common form of testosterone available to athletes. Cyp had gained a reputation as being slightly stronger than enanthate and became the testosterone of choice for many. Now that anabolics are controlled, this is an almost impossible find. In general, the only versions you'll find on the black market are Sten from Mexico, which contains 75mg cyp with 25 mg propionate along with some DHEA, and Testex from Leo in Spain which contains 250mg cypionate is a light resistant ampule. All versions of Upjohn and Steris in multi-dose vials should be looked at with extreme caution as they are very difficult to get on the black market. Counterfeits are quite easy to obtain. Real Steris products have the inking STAMPED into the box and the labels cannot be removed from the bottle. Any variation of that is definitely counterfeit. A running dosage of test cypionate is generally in the range of 200-600mg per week. When this was available for $20 per10ml bottle, many users would take a whopping 2000mg per week. This kind of dosage however, is unsafe, generally not needed and in today's day and age too costly. Should you find a legitimate American vial it would probably cost $200+. Quite often fakes are sold for as much so be careful.

 

[dale_gribble]

Ive heard people trying to compare the differences between the two for way too long, and all of the arguements end up the same way. Some prefer cyp some prefer enanthate, but dont try to tell me that there is a distinct difference between the two....

You know, the main physical difference I actually noticed between the 2 was strength. I did enanth for about 3 solid months and had good gains and good strength increases, but bro, when I switched over to cyp, the gains were much better and more noticable and the strength increase from cyp was much much better! The only thing I hated about cyp which enanth didnt give me was bacne. Other than that, cyp gave me what I needed ten fold.

 

[Lifterforlife]

Not sure if you actually read the article, but it clearly states about half way down that cyp has always been considered slightly stronger than enanth, which is exactly what I stated much earlier. And I have felt the difference between the 2. So, I dont think its me thats misinterpreted anything here.

Testosterone cypionate is a long acting ester of testosterone which is increasingly difficult to find. Before the scheduling of anabolics in the U.S., this was the most common form of testosterone available to athletes. Cyp had gained a reputation as being slightly stronger than enanthate and became the testosterone of choice for many. Now that anabolics are controlled, this is an almost impossible find. In general, the only versions you'll find on the black market are Sten from Mexico, which contains 75mg cyp with 25 mg propionate along with some DHEA, and Testex from Leo in Spain which contains 250mg cypionate is a light resistant ampule. All versions of Upjohn and Steris in multi-dose vials should be looked at with extreme caution as they are very difficult to get on the black market. Counterfeits are quite easy to obtain. Real Steris products have the inking STAMPED into the box and the labels cannot be removed from the bottle. Any variation of that is definitely counterfeit. A running dosage of test cypionate is generally in the range of 200-600mg per week. When this was available for $20 per10ml bottle, many users would take a whopping 2000mg per week. This kind of dosage however, is unsafe, generally not needed and in today's day and age too costly. Should you find a legitimate American vial it would probably cost $200+. Quite often fakes are sold for as much so be careful.

What you are referring to I made bold and italisized. You read this everywhere when discussing Cyp to BUY! It has never been shown to be fact, and I would love to see some research that backs this up. As I pointed out in my original post, it is highly, no almost impossible for Cyp to be stronger. I will again repost, this is information that can be backed up, contrary to the statement in the text you cite, which is simply a selling point.

Cypionate and enanthate are almost identical esters. Acually test E and cyp BOTH have a MW of 412.6112. Test E has an ester of only 7 instead of 8 carbons in length as Cyp does. So, when taking an amount of an esterified steroid, that amount in terms of weight is a combination of both the ester and the steroid. So, the longer the ester is, the more of the weight it takes up. This in fact would make Test E a slight bit more test for the money. In the end, if doing weekly or bi weekly injections, you will notice very little difference.

 

[dale_gribble]

What you are referring to I made bold and italisized. You read this everywhere when discussing Cyp to BUY! It has never been shown to be fact, and I would love to see some research that backs this up. As I pointed out in my original post, it is highly, no almost impossible for Cyp to be stronger. I will again repost, this is information that can be backed up, contrary to the statement in the text you cite, which is simply a selling point.

Cypionate and enanthate are almost identical esters. Acually test E and cyp BOTH have a MW of 412.6112. Test E has an ester of only 7 instead of 8 carbons in length as Cyp does. So, when taking an amount of an esterified steroid, that amount in terms of weight is a combination of both the ester and the steroid. So, the longer the ester is, the more of the weight it takes up. This in fact would make Test E a slight bit more test for the money. In the end, if doing weekly or bi weekly injections, you will notice very little difference.

Look bro,
Just because your opinion is that nobody can tell the difference, doesnt mean that people cant. Im not sure why its so hard for you to believe me that I could tell the difference. Do you want me to be wrong so bad that you are willing to call me a liar? I dont give 2 fucks if you or anyone else believes me or not, but the facts are the facts, and if you dont believe me, then fuck off. Im not making this up and Im sure as hell not lying to you or anyone else, so stop tryiong to tell me Im fucking wrong If I know what I felt when I used both of them. If you cant tell the difference, then find a quality supllier and see what the difference really is.

 

[crystalball]

maybe 600mg of cyp a week is the trick!

 

[dale_gribble]

maybe 600mg of cyp a week is the trick!

Im on 750mg/w now, but I was at 1000mg/w for the longest time.

 

[Lifterforlife]

Look bro,
Just because your opinion is that nobody can tell the difference, doesnt mean that people cant. Im not sure why its so hard for you to believe me that I could tell the difference. Do you want me to be wrong so bad that you are willing to call me a liar? I dont give 2 fucks if you or anyone else believes me or not, but the facts are the facts, and if you dont believe me, then fuck off. Im not making this up and Im sure as hell not lying to you or anyone else, so stop tryiong to tell me Im fucking wrong If I know what I felt when I used both of them. If you cant tell the difference, then find a quality supllier and see what the difference really is.

Discussion ended. Let the readers decide. I clearly stated the facts of the two. Peace...out.

 

[fergie]

For the last time....... there is not a noticable difference between the two esters, they are practially the same thing

 

[dale_gribble]

Discussion ended. Let the readers decide. I clearly stated the facts of the two. Peace...out.

You didnt clearly state anything! All you did is barfed up some info that you've heard a million times without actually listening to the physical evidence. So listen, if you want to be some little asshole that sits behind a computer trying to discredit people because you heard from someone who heard from some else that there is no noticable difference, than so be it, but dont sit here and tell me there is no difference when I have seen it with my own eyes and have experienced it first hand.

End of story!