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Test Cyp and Winny Cycle Advice???

WinnyPumps

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Stats: 5'10, 195, 26yrs, 13-15%bf, lifting about 8 years
Let me get your opinions on my cycle starting next month:
Weeks 1-10 Test Cyp 250mg e5d
Weeks 8-12 Winny 50mg ed
Adex and Nolva if needed
Pct begins right after last shot Winny

My question: Is it necessary to run HCG the second half of my cycle right up to PCT? Or can I use Sustain Alpha just like HCG for this mild cycle. I don't mind getting the HCG but will it make a big difference?

My PCT is Nolva and Test Recovery Stack. My diet has been good lately and my bodyfat is dropping. I get about 250 g protein a day and good carbs.

Please critique any little thing that would be more of a benefit. This is my second cycle. First was Sustanon 250 once a week about four years ago. Much more knowledgable now. My goal is to be primed and ready for beach season in my hometown of Miami as I will be beatin the ladies off with a stick as they are trying to rub my pectorials! I want to be like Arnold chillin at the beach back in the 70's with beautiful beach bunnies! :biggrin: But seriously let me know.
 
Stats: 5'10, 195, 26yrs, 13-15%bf, lifting about 8 years
Let me get your opinions on my cycle starting next month:
Weeks 1-10 Test Cyp 250mg e5d
Weeks 8-12 Winny 50mg ed
Adex and Nolva if needed
Pct begins right after last shot Winny

My question: Is it necessary to run HCG the second half of my cycle right up to PCT? Or can I use Sustain Alpha just like HCG for this mild cycle. I don't mind getting the HCG but will it make a big difference?

My PCT is Nolva and Test Recovery Stack. My diet has been good lately and my bodyfat is dropping. I get about 250 g protein a day and good carbs.

Please critique any little thing that would be more of a benefit. This is my second cycle. First was Sustanon 250 once a week about four years ago. Much more knowledgable now. My goal is to be primed and ready for beach season in my hometown of Miami as I will be beatin the ladies off with a stick as they are trying to rub my pectorials! I want to be like Arnold chillin at the beach back in the 70's with beautiful beach bunnies! :biggrin: But seriously let me know.
Bro that looks good to me as far as gear and cycle.... I am not as knowledgable as some of the other guys here with pct so I'll let them speak about that... I like the every five days program. A-lot of guys like to say run XXXmgs a week to keep blood levels stable. I dont see how they stay stable when you have that muck time in between? Maybe I'm missing something. I am a math major and as for stable levels you need to look at days not weeks. Just my 2 cent... AKA Opinion... Keep us posted!!!
 
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Stats: 5'10, 195, 26yrs, 13-15%bf, lifting about 8 years
Let me get your opinions on my cycle starting next month:
Weeks 1-10 Test Cyp 250mg e5d
Weeks 8-12 Winny 50mg ed
Adex and Nolva if needed
Pct begins right after last shot Winny

My question: Is it necessary to run HCG the second half of my cycle right up to PCT? Or can I use Sustain Alpha just like HCG for this mild cycle. I don't mind getting the HCG but will it make a big difference?

My PCT is Nolva and Test Recovery Stack. My diet has been good lately and my bodyfat is dropping. I get about 250 g protein a day and good carbs.

Please critique any little thing that would be more of a benefit. This is my second cycle. First was Sustanon 250 once a week about four years ago. Much more knowledgable now. My goal is to be primed and ready for beach season in my hometown of Miami as I will be beatin the ladies off with a stick as they are trying to rub my pectorials! I want to be like Arnold chillin at the beach back in the 70's with beautiful beach bunnies! :biggrin: But seriously let me know.

A few things, switch the Winstrol to the start of the cycle, instead of the end. And, on the PCT side, you don't need HCG, but you need a lot more than Nolvadex. Try doing this:

Day 1-3: 300mgs Clomid/day + 40mgs Nolvadex/day + 40mcg Clenbuterol/day + .25mgs arimidex EOD
Day 4-7: 200mgs Clomid/day + 40mgs Nolvadex/day + 40mcg Clenbuterol/day + .25mgs arimidex EOD
Day 8-16: 100mgs Clomid/day + 20mgs Nolvadex/day + 20mcg Clenbuterol/day
Day 17-25: 50mgs Clomid/day + 20mgs Nolvadex/day
Day 26-30: 50mgs Clomid/day
 
A few things, switch the Winstrol to the start of the cycle, instead of the end. And, on the PCT side, you don't need HCG, but you need a lot more than Nolvadex. Try doing this:

Day 1-3: 300mgs Clomid/day + 40mgs Nolvadex/day + 40mcg Clenbuterol/day + .25mgs arimidex EOD
Day 4-7: 200mgs Clomid/day + 40mgs Nolvadex/day + 40mcg Clenbuterol/day + .25mgs arimidex EOD
Day 8-16: 100mgs Clomid/day + 20mgs Nolvadex/day + 20mcg Clenbuterol/day
Day 17-25: 50mgs Clomid/day + 20mgs Nolvadex/day
Day 26-30: 50mgs Clomid/day

IMO, anything in excess of 50mg's of Clomid ED is just too much. Those nasty Clomid sides become more of a reality in this case. Especially when you consider his relatively low dosages.
 
300mgs of clomid......WAY to much, 50-150mgs a week AT THE MOST, as all substances that varies from person to person. Yer cycle looks good, if u want u can up yer test to 400mgs a week all depending on yer goals. Also I would couple the Clomid with HCG, I know some guys think it's pointless but it always proven effective for ME.

GoodLuck Bro!
 
300mgs of clomid......WAY to much, 50-150mgs a week AT THE MOST, as all substances that varies from person to person. Yer cycle looks good, if u want u can up yer test to 400mgs a week all depending on yer goals. Also I would couple the Clomid with HCG, I know some guys think it's pointless but it always proven effective for ME.

GoodLuck Bro!

For some reason it's been a pain in the ass to get HCG. I would like to have some to keep as much gains as possible. I would really like to do HCG for two weeks after my last shot, then Nolvadex with Test Recovery Stack for 4 weeks.

As for Winstrol in the beginning instead of the end what is your opinion on this ??
 
IMO, anything in excess of 50mg's of Clomid ED is just too much. Those nasty Clomid sides become more of a reality in this case. Especially when you consider his relatively low dosages.

What would your opinion be on my post cycle?? That is more important to me. I will make gains either way but I want to keep alomst all of it. I will also be taking a small amount of Adex and eating clean so I don't lose much water weight afterwards.
 
What would your opinion be on my post cycle?? That is more important to me. I will make gains either way but I want to keep alomst all of it. I will also be taking a small amount of Adex and eating clean so I don't lose much water weight afterwards.

i wouldnt listen to that eclenbuterol sponsor post,,,seems hes hoping you will waste cash on his clomd overdose,,.imo stick with your plan of the test recovery stack,,with nolva at 10-20m gs if u want.also im doing nearlt the same cycle soon,but winny at the end to harden up,.
 
i wouldnt listen to that eclenbuterol sponsor post,,,seems hes hoping you will waste cash on his clomd overdose,,.imo stick with your plan of the test recovery stack,,with nolva at 10-20m gs if u want.also im doing nearlt the same cycle soon,but winny at the end to harden up,.

No way would I do all that clomid. I also wanted to do the Winny at the end. Are you doing any HCG with your cycle. I 'm thinkin I should because I'm bumping the Test up to 400 mg pw, one shot Monday 200 and Thursday 200 followed by Winny the last 5 wks.

Opinion?
 
For some reason it's been a pain in the ass to get HCG. I would like to have some to keep as much gains as possible. I would really like to do HCG for two weeks after my last shot, then Nolvadex with Test Recovery Stack for 4 weeks.

As for Winstrol in the beginning instead of the end what is your opinion on this ??



The whole point of taking winny is to harden up, therefore it should always be added toward the end of a cycle, run it no more than 8 weeks. DIET MUST BE IMPECABLE AND LOTS OF WATER......NO CARBS AFTER 4P.M.!!!


GoodLuck man!
 
No way would I do all that clomid. I also wanted to do the Winny at the end. Are you doing any HCG with your cycle. I 'm thinkin I should because I'm bumping the Test up to 400 mg pw, one shot Monday 200 and Thursday 200 followed by Winny the last 5 wks.

Opinion?

im doing test cyp 12weeks and gonna use hcg from weeks 4-13 at 500ius every5th day,finishing one week before pct,which will consist of the trs stack and 10mg nolva a day.the winny i will throw in from weeks 8-14.pct stars day after last winny tab,,.may add proviron at 25mg day thru cycle ,or last 6weeks at 50mg day.
 
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