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Snapcity1990

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Hey guys im looking to put on a decent bit of muscle but id like to get cut more than bulk. I was planning to run this cycle:

week1-12 test e 500mg
week6-12 var 60mg ed

I have aromasin on hand. Here are my questions

1. Can I run the var longer than 6 weeks and start around week 4?
2. How much aromasin to take?
3. Will unleashed/pct combo be enough for a pct?
4. Should I take the var twice a day? Maybe pre and post workout? Or all at once?

Thanks for the help
Stats:
Age-24
Weight-200
Bf-12-14%
height-6'
 
Snapcity1990 said:
Hey guys im looking to put on a decent bit of muscle but id like to get cut more than bulk. I was planning to run this cycle:

week1-12 test e 500mg
week6-12 var 60mg ed

I have aromasin on hand. Here are my questions

1. Can I run the var longer than 6 weeks and start around week 4?
2. How much aromasin to take?
3. Will unleashed/pct combo be enough for a pct?
4. Should I take the var twice a day? Maybe pre and post workout? Or all at once?

Thanks for the help
Stats:
Age-24
Weight-200
Bf-12-14%
height-6'
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this all needs fixed... do not run anavar longer than 6 weeks... i have a better idea for you... yes, you split up anavar, you don't take it all at once...

1-12 test e 500 mg week
1-12 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-4 tbol 60 mg day
1-4 n2guard
7-14 hcg 500 ius week or hcgenerate
9-14 anavar 60 mg day first four weeks then bump to 80 mg
9-14 proviron
9-14 n2guard

pct
15-18 clomid 25/25/25/25
15-18 unleashed/post cycle combo
15-18 forma stanzol
15-18 daa powerchews or powder
 
dylangemelli said:
this all needs fixed... do not run anavar longer than 6 weeks... i have a better idea for you... yes, you split up anavar, you don't take it all at once...

1-12 test e 500 mg week
1-12 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-4 tbol 60 mg day
1-4 n2guard
7-14 hcg 500 ius week or hcgenerate
9-14 anavar 60 mg day first four weeks then bump to 80 mg
9-14 proviron
9-14 n2guard

pct
15-18 clomid 25/25/25/25
15-18 unleashed/post cycle combo
15-18 forma stanzol
15-18 daa powerchews or powder
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I like this set up as well, starting with the Tbol and finishing up with the Var.

Dylan's PCT layout is spot on also
 
Massive85 said:
How much roughly would that entire cycle cost? lol

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Depends where your gear comes from...
 
thanks isteroids... =)


25/25/25/25 is 25 mg a day... for four weeks...

as far as anavar vs. winny... your going to get a split on that question bro... you just need to try them both at different times and see which one you respond to better... there's pros and cons to both of them...
 
Are suggesting to continue the var after I stop taking the test to help get rid of water? Y not just stop both at week 12? Im going to follow your great advice, i am Just wondering...
 
Snapcity1990 said:
Are suggesting to continue the var after I stop taking the test to help get rid of water? Y not just stop both at week 12? Im going to follow your great advice, i am Just wondering...
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The idea is to stay on var an extra 2 weeks while the esters are clearing from the test. You typically don't start PCT until 2 weeks after your last pin because of all the test still in your system, so you are technically still on cycle so might as well run the var during that time
 
Hey guys. I'm a little over a week into this cycle and my left nipple is starting to get very sensitive. It hurts pretty bad. Is this the early stages of gyno? If so, what should I take?
 
Snapcity1990 said:
Hey guys. I'm a little over a week into this cycle and my left nipple is starting to get very sensitive. It hurts pretty bad. Is this the early stages of gyno? If so, what should I take?
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You sure ur just not imagining it bro?
I can't see how u can have gyno problems after 1 week on.
 
No I'm def not. I brushed up against something and noticed pain and then once I started feeling around I can def notice it. I'll continue to monitor it
 
keep an eye on it but i think its probably something else... if it progresses then dose aromasin ED... 12.5 mg...
 
Thanks Dylan. I'll give it a week. From my research I shouldn't experience gyno with test 500 this quick but who knows. Hopefully it'll clear up
 
Snapcity1990 said:
Thanks Dylan. I'll give it a week. From my research I shouldn't experience gyno with test 500 this quick but who knows. Hopefully it'll clear up
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you shouldn't be bro but stranger shit has happened...i am doubting that's what your experiencing but keep an eye on it... pm me anytime if you have any concerns bro
 
Week 1-12 Test E 500mg/week
Week 8-14 var 60mg ED

Don't need proviron, don't need n2guard (it can help though), don't need all the other bullshit.

Aromasin + HCG is your best post cycle anyway. HCG will make you bounce back quicker than anything else which equals better muscle retention. Aromasin to combat sides of HCG converting to estrogen.

It's always a good idea to keep letro on hand for emergency purposes. If you start getting breast tissue growth, nothing else will work as well and as effectively.

I always like unleashed, and post cycle works well too.

If you're fat you will experience more estrogen sides. If you're not 6' @ 200lbs with 12-14% may not fall into this category then you probably won't need any AI during your cycle as it will hinder gains.

The goal here is to reduce drug intake for max gains and less sides, not increase them.
 
Power36 said:
Whats behind starting with tbol and ending with var? Just curious!
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tbol would serve as a kickstart for test... since its a longer ester you won't start to feel much on it until week 5... tbol will give an excellent kickstart to the cycle... anavar is always nice to polish off a cycle to harden up your gains from your cycle...
 
dylangemelli said:
tbol would serve as a kickstart for test... since its a longer ester you won't start to feel much on it until week 5... tbol will give an excellent kickstart to the cycle... anavar is always nice to polish off a cycle to harden up your gains from your cycle...
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tbol has a long half life, its good to run 6 weeks or so. I always like orals at the end of a cycle though - so its reasonable.
 
UA_Iron said:
tbol has a long half life, its good to run 6 weeks or so. I always like orals at the end of a cycle though - so its reasonable.
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absolutely agree with you... i much prefer to finish a cycle off with an oral... some people feel they need the motivation at a beginning of a cycle with a kicker... im not one of those that really needs any extra motivation but some do...
 
dylangemelli said:
absolutely agree with you... i much prefer to finish a cycle off with an oral... some people feel they need the motivation at a beginning of a cycle with a kicker... im not one of those that really needs any extra motivation but some do...
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I like it when clearing out the long esters. I think winny works especially well for this.
 
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