Test and Gains with good genetics

[LightWeight918]

Hey guys. I'm just wondering since I'm about to run a 1st time cycle of testosterone cypionate at 250mg of ten weeks. I'm wondering what the gains are. My guy said I'd gain anywhere from 15-20. I'd like to say I have good genetics. My grandpa benched 325 at senior Olympics and had 19 inch arms all natural. My dad in college was all natural weighed 195 with 5.6% BF. So I'd like to say I have good genetics. I weigh about 193 lbs with 10-13% BF. what kinda gains do you think I'll get? Arm wise what Kind of gains like how many inches?

Thanks!

 

[bigbossofdariver]

on 250 mg you might not gain anything, bump it up to 500mg.

 

[zwhit]

Impossible to say bro. A good routine and plenty of protein with good genes = win

 

[stevesmi]

impossible to answer this question.

wat is your age? stats? training experience.

 

[LightWeight918]

Age: 21.. Bench: 275x9.. Squat: 365

Training on and off for about 4 years

 

[stevesmi]

i aim for 5 pounds of net muscle gain on each cycle. guys who blow up 40 pounds on a first cycle are way below their genetic potential and are lucky to keep half of that since a lot of that is water.

muscle building takes time. quick gains are tougher to keep. its the slow consistent gains that are keepable

 

[LightWeight918]

Yeah I see where this couldn't really be answered. Well thanks anyways guys. I'd really like to gain around 10 pounds of lean muscle. Guess I'll just bust my ass in the gym and see how it goes!

 

[stevesmi]

Yeah I see where this couldn't really be answered. Well thanks anyways guys. I'd really like to gain around 10 pounds of lean muscle. Guess I'll just bust my ass in the gym and see how it goes!

bust your ass before, during AND after.

its not what you gain on cycle that matters.. its what you keep after .... this is why primo is considered the gold standard of AAS!! its a slow and quality builder.

you should consider a primo/test cycle as your 2nd cycle once you fully recover. if i could afford it everytime i would run nothing but primo for cycles. i've been off for months now and my gains stuck.

you could run a ton of dbol, blow up like a fish but would that really be good gains?

 

[LightWeight918]

bust your ass before, during AND after.

its not what you gain on cycle that matters.. its what you keep after .... this is why primo is considered the gold standard of AAS!! its a slow and quality builder.

you should consider a primo/test cycle as your 2nd cycle once you fully recover. if i could afford it everytime i would run nothing but primo for cycles. i've been off for months now and my gains stuck.

you could run a ton of dbol, blow up like a fish but would that really be good gains?

I was considering test and eq for my 2nd cycle later this year. I don't know much about Different AAS other than the basics like test and dbol and winny and others along those lines. I've been trying to learn a lot from reading on this board. What's the effects of primo? Is it compared with var or is it like a deca without the bloat?

 

[stevesmi]

there are many threads about primo. and google is your friend.

 

[mryar]

Sounds like you got golden nuts. I really would not be messing with AAS at 21, seeing how your boys are producing like mad. Why upset the perfect system you got now? During the cycle you'll grow, but what if you disrupt your perfect system and don't come back 100% after pct?

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ i agree with that totally

AAS is for older guys like me who want to feel like we are 21. and pump iron in the gym like we are 21.

why mess around?

 

[LightWeight918]

Mainly for size reasons. I'd just like to get as big as possible. And I see where you guys are coming from as my test levels are great I'm guessing. But I just wanna experiment with AAS and see how it goes. I'll follow with the right PCT. Just wanna see the results I get

 

[StRoNg_WoN]

I ran test @ 250/week for 8 weeks... and gain/kept 16lbs.. but yea... it all depends.... try it and see..

 

[J Nicholas]

Cycles today are so huge, people actually think you'd gain nothing on low doses. I wouldn't listen. I'm a true mesomorph as well, and the 1st time I did test, I only did between 150-200mg/wk and in 6 weeks I gained 25 lbs. Fresh receptors helped back then. I still like to take as little as I can possibly get away with.

 

[StRoNg_WoN]

Cycles today are so huge, people actually think you'd gain nothing on low doses. I wouldn't listen. I'm a true mesomorph as well, and the 1st time I did test, I only did between 150-200mg/wk and in 6 weeks I gained 25 lbs. Fresh receptors helped back then. I still like to take as little as I can possibly get away with.

Agreed... if we produce 10mg - 12mg a day... that's 70mg - 84mg a week... so 250 is bound to make a difference...

 

[cybercom8]

Hey guys. I'm just wondering since I'm about to run a 1st time cycle of testosterone cypionate at 250mg of ten weeks. I'm wondering what the gains are. My guy said I'd gain anywhere from 15-20. I'd like to say I have good genetics. My grandpa benched 325 at senior Olympics and had 19 inch arms all natural. My dad in college was all natural weighed 195 with 5.6% BF. So I'd like to say I have good genetics. I weigh about 193 lbs with 10-13% BF. what kinda gains do you think I'll get? Arm wise what Kind of gains like how many inches?

Thanks!

the guys are right...you shouldnt be going so low on just a test cycle. At least 500mg. Maybe even kick it with dbol.

Results wise (i have good genetics as well). I gained around 8kg on my first cycle... BUT remember with single ester testosterones theres more water retention so you can expect to loose most of it... or at least half. Remember, a good PCT regimin is what will help you retain. But just warning you ...you will love the size and when you loose it u will want ot cycle again...

im hoping to eventually get to a ripped 95kg and maintain. Im only 1.75m so 95kg on my frame is pretty massive ...even 90kg actually (provided its lean).

 

[stevesmi]

estrogen is higher when you jump up the testosterone. test aromatizes... people think just dbol does.