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solidspine said:
See ..... that just the thing you have to consider.
Those are now all in your medialc record. If you ever have to get insurance and your records are reviewed by the new insurance company, these will be red flags. They will want to know WHY these were presecribed, and any knowledgeable medcial professional is going to see these are indicators of AS use.
See what I mean?
Your_Moms_Kneepads
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Dave, First off.Good post-It will make alot of people here think twice about what they do and do not say.
I've been on the record as saying that when dealing with a doc with these type of matters pay CASH and even use a fake Soc. Sec #. This way even if they have your name the info cant be used non-matching soc. #'s. Same goes for the lab--pay cash.
I wouldnt tell a doctor any fucking thing at ALL about AS use--even a "cool" one.
As for the dilemma about the cool doc and the lab test results that are way off kilter that seem to *damn* you? If worse came to worse with the next insurer tell them that it was Andro/Norandro. God isnt it cool to have prohormones as a scapegoat?
I've been on the record as saying that when dealing with a doc with these type of matters pay CASH and even use a fake Soc. Sec #. This way even if they have your name the info cant be used non-matching soc. #'s. Same goes for the lab--pay cash.
I wouldnt tell a doctor any fucking thing at ALL about AS use--even a "cool" one.
As for the dilemma about the cool doc and the lab test results that are way off kilter that seem to *damn* you? If worse came to worse with the next insurer tell them that it was Andro/Norandro. God isnt it cool to have prohormones as a scapegoat?
Your_Moms_Kneepads
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Dave.Dont worrry. I go thru the same thing. I posted on a new or pretty unknown brand of clen in Mexico and I had about 30 views and not even a fucking bump and off topic posts like some guy talking about family problems (not death or something very grave-but stuff about their GF being a cunt or whatever) get all kind of posts.Riker29 said:
Riker,
I'm not sure that I agree with all of you statements, great post however.
I'm no law expert or medical expert but it has been my experience over the last 15 or so years that as you change doc's, your records remain with that doc and do not follow you unless it is at your request. It would also be illegal for anyone to request these records without due cause. Insurance companies would not have the right to request past history unless the history was related to a known existing condition. An example would be heart or lung issues. Most of this should be covered by the doctor / patient confidentiality act, which was brought about by HIV patients.
My first experiences with gear were via a docs script. I know for a fact that that info was never passed on to my other docs.
When I tore my pec the first time, the doc flat out asked me if I was using gear, I said yes at which point he told me the dangers...etc...this info was not passed on or recorded as I have the records.
I think that part of being a responsible user is to confide in your doctor and take yearly tests to protect yourself. My current doc is a real prick, old fashion and totally against my use but he has a responsiblilty to provide care. As a patient, I think it is your right to look at your records, if any of you are wondering what is written down, ask to look at your file next time.
It is possible that if you tell your doc that he might sto seeing you, I think if this is the case that you're both better off finding another provider.
Just my opinions.
BPP
I'm not sure that I agree with all of you statements, great post however.
I'm no law expert or medical expert but it has been my experience over the last 15 or so years that as you change doc's, your records remain with that doc and do not follow you unless it is at your request. It would also be illegal for anyone to request these records without due cause. Insurance companies would not have the right to request past history unless the history was related to a known existing condition. An example would be heart or lung issues. Most of this should be covered by the doctor / patient confidentiality act, which was brought about by HIV patients.
My first experiences with gear were via a docs script. I know for a fact that that info was never passed on to my other docs.
When I tore my pec the first time, the doc flat out asked me if I was using gear, I said yes at which point he told me the dangers...etc...this info was not passed on or recorded as I have the records.
I think that part of being a responsible user is to confide in your doctor and take yearly tests to protect yourself. My current doc is a real prick, old fashion and totally against my use but he has a responsiblilty to provide care. As a patient, I think it is your right to look at your records, if any of you are wondering what is written down, ask to look at your file next time.
It is possible that if you tell your doc that he might sto seeing you, I think if this is the case that you're both better off finding another provider.
Just my opinions.
BPP
BPP,
Good points. One thing though, in most cases if you are going be reviewed for possible coverage by a new insurance carrier, they will request in the application that you GRANT THEM THE RIGHT to review your current records. If you dont' - they will reject you in many cases.
So yeah, no one has the right to review your records without your consent. But many insurance companies will not grant you insurance (remember, private medical coverage is not a "right" or entitlement) unless you grant that consent.
Again, an exception will be if you are coming into a new "group" plan, and the plan holder (large compoany) has SO much clout due to their numbers that the insurance company will just accept almost anyone.
Even THEN, they may still reject coverage of anyspeic problem due to a "pre-existing condition" exepmtion. So even if you get medcial coverage, if something bad does happen, THEN they go back and review earlier records again (I have seen this happen to people) trying to find a way to call it "pre-existing". And if they can not only show THAT, but show in ANY way that YOU may have been At Cause (like you decided to take AS), then you are screwed for coverage.
Good points. One thing though, in most cases if you are going be reviewed for possible coverage by a new insurance carrier, they will request in the application that you GRANT THEM THE RIGHT to review your current records. If you dont' - they will reject you in many cases.
So yeah, no one has the right to review your records without your consent. But many insurance companies will not grant you insurance (remember, private medical coverage is not a "right" or entitlement) unless you grant that consent.
Again, an exception will be if you are coming into a new "group" plan, and the plan holder (large compoany) has SO much clout due to their numbers that the insurance company will just accept almost anyone.
Even THEN, they may still reject coverage of anyspeic problem due to a "pre-existing condition" exepmtion. So even if you get medcial coverage, if something bad does happen, THEN they go back and review earlier records again (I have seen this happen to people) trying to find a way to call it "pre-existing". And if they can not only show THAT, but show in ANY way that YOU may have been At Cause (like you decided to take AS), then you are screwed for coverage.
The Grinch
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Good post!!!!!!!!!!
