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tbol vs. var?

tbone31

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after deciding on my goals and wanting to get faster and more cut, without the joint pain associated from winny i've been steered towards var and tbol, i need some personal opinions to what some differences are, side effects, gains, and what not i know var is more expensive then tbol but if tbol is just as good. it would be a no brainer to go on tbol no?
 
Roc86 said:
For speed and help staying dry (will not burn fat) winstrol would be a good choice as well.


ya but like i said in the post i dont want any risk of joint pain. plus i like my hair on my head. my big ears would stick out way too far lol.
 
Sorry bro, just lazy ass skimmed your post. Tbol and Var are very well liked. Your gona get guys pushing you in each direction. Personally id go Var, your pct will be a breeze, and youll probably gain more strength with less weight than Tbol (though Tbol youll be dry as well).

... My vote = Anavar
 
Roc86 said:
Sorry bro, just lazy ass skimmed your post. Tbol and Var are very well liked. Your gona get guys pushing you in each direction. Personally id go Var, your pct will be a breeze, and youll probably gain more strength with less weight than Tbol (though Tbol youll be dry as well).

... My vote = Anavar


thanks man appreciate the input, just waiting to find out the price differences right now i think that might be a deciding factor depending on how expensive the anavar is. any recommendations for dosage 40mg ed im 6'3 220 if that has anything to do wtih dosage size and this will be my first cycle obv.
 
My vote = Tbol

Better gains and less expensive.

In my opinion it is the best oral there is. Besides the Oral my girls gives me. But that is an entirely different subject.
 
If your really worried about price then going the Tbol route I guess wouldnt be a bad idea. Not sure where your getting var from, but these days the price isnt that bad with most UG's.
 
Go with tbol,when i was researching it on another board i talked to two guys who cut 2 tenths of a second off of their 40 time with it , id go with 50 mg a day, im gonna be running it this summer and cant wait. Also tbol increases libido where as if you just run var alone you will lose your sex drive.
 
you could do what I just started a few days ago, hoping for the "best of both worlds":

Week 1-4: 30mg Tbol + 20mg Var per day
Week 5-8: 50mg Var per day

(or something similar) My theory is that you'll get the nice little "kickstart" at the begining of your cycle from the Tbol, plus the var will have its chance to "kick in" before you up the dosage after week 4, etc, etc. :chomp:
 
koartist said:
you could do what I just started a few days ago, hoping for the "best of both worlds":

Week 1-4: 30mg Tbol + 20mg Var per day
Week 5-8: 50mg Var per day

(or something similar) My theory is that you'll get the nice little "kickstart" at the begining of your cycle from the Tbol, plus the var will have its chance to "kick in" before you up the dosage after week 4, etc, etc. :chomp:


Any problems with the sex drive by using var for the last 3 weeks on its own?
My broad would not be cool with me getting a limp dick.

Right now im thinking tbol it is by koartist your cycle sounds good but will there be that much a difference you think than just running tbol on its own?
 
Im using 100mg/day of the tbol, love it. Strength and hardness are finally kicking in.. I love var and halo mix.. just the price steers me away.. But if I could afford it, var all the time..
 
ItalianMuscle27 said:
Im using 100mg/day of the tbol, love it. Strength and hardness are finally kicking in.. I love var and halo mix.. just the price steers me away.. But if I could afford it, var all the time..

How long have you been on?
 
Roc86 said:
If your really worried about price then going the Tbol route I guess wouldnt be a bad idea. Not sure where your getting var from, but these days the price isnt that bad with most UG's.

I know exactly how cheap var is these days. The cost is not that big of a deal to me, but the fact remains that tbol is cheaper.

I have run var and Tbol so I know exactly what I got out of each and I liked the results I got from tbol over var.
 
tbone31 said:
Any problems with the sex drive by using var for the last 3 weeks on its own?
My broad would not be cool with me getting a limp dick.

Right now im thinking tbol it is by koartist your cycle sounds good but will there be that much a difference you think than just running tbol on its own?

This will be my first try at this type of cycle, so we'll see man, I hope there's no problems, can't have willy going to sleep, lol. I'll have plenty of things on hand in case that happens though, like extra Tbol if needed, cialis, and I'm gonna try oxycalm too.

Does doing some HCG mid cycle affect your sex drive? I've never used HCG before, but with AG guys introducing it, and with me considering extending my cycle to 10 weeks, I think I'll finally include HCG this time around, especially since it's not var only like I usually have done in the past. Italian???????
 
tbone31 said:
Any problems with the sex drive by using var for the last 3 weeks on its own?
My broad would not be cool with me getting a limp dick.

Right now im thinking tbol it is by koartist your cycle sounds good but will there be that much a difference you think than just running tbol on its own?

Man, I wouldn't worry too much about the sex drive thing. I guess everybody's different but I did var only and I couldn't get enough. By week 2 or 3 I had to bring in another girl cause mine couldn't give me enough. This week it looks like there'll be another girl. I'm probably gonna start tbol in a couple days so I'll be able to compare the two soon.
 
gunnr17 said:
Man, I wouldn't worry too much about the sex drive thing. I guess everybody's different but I did var only and I couldn't get enough. By week 2 or 3 I had to bring in another girl cause mine couldn't give me enough. This week it looks like there'll be another girl. I'm probably gonna start tbol in a couple days so I'll be able to compare the two soon.


thanks alot guys im getting great advice and opinions, gunnr let me know how its goes im still currently trying to track it down basically waiting for final numbers which will probably make my decision for me.

Italian would i find the stuff needed for pct from my source? or can that be obtained legally?

thanks in advance.
 
Go with Tbol. You can get 500 BD for about $300. You definitely like the gains more than if you used var. Believe me when I tell you that most of these bozos on here have not used both. Most of them have probably never used either. I have used both and many times. Tbol is the way to go.

All you needfor PCT is some Nolva. $30 will cover you ont that.
 
d_o_c_ said:
Go with Tbol. You can get 500 BD for about $300. You definitely like the gains more than if you used var. Believe me when I tell you that most of these bozos on here have not used both. Most of them have probably never used either. I have used both and many times. Tbol is the way to go.

All you needfor PCT is some Nolva. $30 will cover you ont that.
So you think for his goals tbol is the way to go. What is your theory behind that? I have done both and var is better for wanting to become faster and cut but I like to hear why you think tbol is better? I love tbol on it right now but when I was boxing for a match var works way better than tbol for those goals. To me tbol is more on the lines of dbol than var.
 
d_o_c_ said:
Go with Tbol. You can get 500 BD for about $300. You definitely like the gains more than if you used var. Believe me when I tell you that most of these bozos on here have not used both. Most of them have probably never used either. I have used both and many times. Tbol is the way to go.

All you needfor PCT is some Nolva. $30 will cover you ont that.


when do i take the noiva? and also do i ask my source for that as well? sorry for all the newb questions but you gotta start somewhere. thanks.

also if i give you guys my stats and what my goals are anyone willing to help me out with what supplements i will benifit from besides the obvious ones. I'm getting help with my diet and workout but if theres anything i can add let me know.


6'ft3 220lbs, estimate 16-18% bodyfat. 21yrs. I'm looking to lower my body fat, get shredded, get faster, and stronger. and im not so worried about the weight, i just wanna get nice and cut. so maybe 210 would be ideal. i dont want to get any heavier. but lighter is okay.
 
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