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Tbol VS Var
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mendo
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bigrand said:
I prefer Tbol. You should check out this thread: http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=392627&highlight=tbol+var
Bruce
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tbol is the shit. never have i had a steroid kick in by day 6. strength up 20lbs on bench after 9. and a weight gain of 5lbs. now on day 17 and up 6lbs, all lean mass, i have new veins poppin out. its like winny without the joint pain. no sides at all. pumps are fucking crazy compared to deca and winny. haven't tried dbol. i highly reccomend 60mg ed for 4 weeks. at the rate i am going i should put on 10lbs of lean shredded mass. i am hard as a rock (my muscles) all day and pumped for hours after workouts. libido is like being on test also, forgot to mention that. nolva only for pct. pretty nice little cycle or kickstart to an inject
sparetire
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I started my cycle recently, as of July 5th and I have to say, tbol is already kicking in! My current cycle is 500mgs of eq weekly and 40mgs of tbol ed for about 4 weeks. I'm on day 3 of tbol and i'm noticing slight muscle pumps while I am working out at the gym, but the best part is that my libido is starting to climb. None of the effects so far are anything to jump and jive over, but I do like the fact that I'm already feeling it. My biggest fear on this tbol is that I might get some water retention. I'm actually looking forward to only gaining about 10 pounds of lean hard mass while losing about 3-5 pounds of some good fat. I'm currently at 10.4% bf and hopefully, dropping. I'm going to introduce 50mgs of masteron eod at week 4 and run that for 6 weeks. This cycle should be fun 
brooklynheight
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u think it would be crazy to run winny/var/tbol..and t3?
wayneboard1
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so if you were gonna run a tbol ONLY cycle, what would be the average length and dosage? The more I read about var and tbol I really like it all, but var, man the cost is high.
Strengths-apprentice
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When talking about dosage I always here the number 40 to 60 mg a day. and guys reporting good to excellent results.
At what starting body weight are you when you start taking Tbol.
Are we 180 or 280. It would stand to reason that the bigger the guy the higher the dosage (60mg day) instead of
someone that weighs 180.
my stats 6'2" 225.
Check that i just answered my own question. i found an old thread posted by duke of earl
It looks like part of the steroid.com profile - It's one of 2 or 3 profiles that keep getting posted! We need new info! Anyhow here's the rest of it.....(& another profile)
An athlete weighing 200 pounds would take only 4 tablets of 5 mg (20mg/day.) In our experience bodybuilders take 8-10 tablets of 5 mg, that is 40-50 mg/day. Many enthusiastically report good results with this dosage: one builds a solid muscle mass, the strength gain is worthwhile seeing, the water retention is very low, and the estrogen-caused side effects are rare. Not without good reason OT is also popular among powerlifters and weightlifters who appreciate these characteristics.
Due to its characteristics OT is also a suitable steroid both for men and women in competitions. A usually very effective stack for male bodybuilders consists of 50 mg OT/day, 228 mg Parabolan/week, and 150 mg Winstrol Depot/week. Those who have brought their body fat content to a low level by dieting and/or by using fatburning substances (e.g. Clenbuterol, Ephedrine, Salbutamol, Cytomel, Triacana), will find that the above steroid combination will manifest itself in hard, sharply-defined but still dense and full muscles. No enlarged breasts, no estrogen surplus, and no watery, puffy-look-ing muscle system. If OT were available on the U.S. black market for steroids, bodybuilders, powerlifters, and weightlifters would go crazy for this East German anabolic.
OT enjoys a great popularity since it is quickly broken down by the body and the metabolites are excreted relatively quickly through the urine. The often-posed question regarding how many days before a test OT can be taken in order to be "clean" is difficult to answer specifically or in general. We know from a reli-able source that athletes who only take OT as a steroid and who, in part, take dosages of 10- 15 tablets/day, have discontinued the com-pound exactly five days before a doping test and tested negative. These indications are supported by the fact that even positive urine analyses have rarely mentioned the names Oral-Turinabol or chlordehydromethyl-testosterone.
The potential side effects of OT usually depend on the dosage level and are gender-specific. in women, depending on their predisposi-tion, the usual virilization symptoms occur and increase when dos-ages of more than 20 mg per day are taken over a prolonged time. In men the already discussed reduced testosterone production can rarely be avoided. Gynecomastia occurs rarely with OT Since the response of the water and electrolyte household is not overly dis-tinct athletes only rarely report water retention and high blood pressure. Acne, gastrointestinal pain, and uncontrolled aggressive behavior are also the exception rather than the rule with OT An increased libido is reported in most cases by both sexes. Since the substance chlordehydromethyltestosterone is I 7-alpha alkylated the manufacturer in its package insert recommends that the liver func-tion be checked regularly since it can be negatively affected by high dosages and the risk of possible liver damage cannot be excluded. Thus OT is also a steroid that can be taken without interruption for long intervals. Studies of male athletes who over a period of six weeks were given 10 mg OT/day did not show any indications of health-threatening effects.
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Here's another....
Oral Turinabol is an anabolic steroid developed and made famous by scientists in East Germany years ago. This is a more steroid of infamy actually, as it was one of the closely held secrets inside the East German Doping Machine. I am referring to a state sponsored doping program, called State Plan 14.25 that operated in East Germany for a period of time between the 1960`s and 1980`s.
Turanabol is a potent derivative of Dianabol. It is structurally a cross between methandrostenolone and clostebol (4-chlorotestosterone), having same base structure as Dianabol with the added 4-chloro alteration of clostebol. This makes Turanabol a kindelr gentler Dianabol, the new steroid displaying a much lower level of androgenic activity in comparison. Its anabolic activity is somewhat lower than that of Dianabol as well, but it does maintain a much favorable balance of anabolic to androgenic effect overall. This means that at any given level of muscle-building activity, Turanabol will be much less likely to produce he classic androgenic sides effects such as oily skin, acne, aggression and male-pattern hair loss (if genetically prone) than would Dianabol.
The 4-chloro attachment used with steroid also inhibits its ability to be aromatizes. Turanabol is therefore not going to present its user with unwanted estrogenic side effects like water retention, increased fat deposition or gynecomastia. While Dianabol tends to produce puffiness and a little fat retention in its users, which hides muscle definition, the exact opposite effect usually happens with Turanabol. Turanabol tends to ptomote gain in lean tissue mass, accompanied by an increased look of density, hardness and definition due to the intensified androgen to estrogen ratio. For bodybuilding purpose this makes Turanabol a great pre-contest or cutting steroid, not really a bulking agent of choice. Athletes in sports where speed tends to be a primary focus would also find favor in Turanabol, obtaining a strong anabolic benefit without having to carry around any extra water or fat weight. Although there is a clear relationship between Turanabol and Dianabol when it comes to molecular structure, ultimately it would be much more appropriate to be comparing the activities of this steroid to those of other mild, non aromatizing anabolics like Stanozolol, Oxandrolone or Priomobolan.
At what starting body weight are you when you start taking Tbol.
Are we 180 or 280. It would stand to reason that the bigger the guy the higher the dosage (60mg day) instead of
someone that weighs 180.
my stats 6'2" 225.
Check that i just answered my own question. i found an old thread posted by duke of earl
It looks like part of the steroid.com profile - It's one of 2 or 3 profiles that keep getting posted! We need new info! Anyhow here's the rest of it.....(& another profile)
An athlete weighing 200 pounds would take only 4 tablets of 5 mg (20mg/day.) In our experience bodybuilders take 8-10 tablets of 5 mg, that is 40-50 mg/day. Many enthusiastically report good results with this dosage: one builds a solid muscle mass, the strength gain is worthwhile seeing, the water retention is very low, and the estrogen-caused side effects are rare. Not without good reason OT is also popular among powerlifters and weightlifters who appreciate these characteristics.
Due to its characteristics OT is also a suitable steroid both for men and women in competitions. A usually very effective stack for male bodybuilders consists of 50 mg OT/day, 228 mg Parabolan/week, and 150 mg Winstrol Depot/week. Those who have brought their body fat content to a low level by dieting and/or by using fatburning substances (e.g. Clenbuterol, Ephedrine, Salbutamol, Cytomel, Triacana), will find that the above steroid combination will manifest itself in hard, sharply-defined but still dense and full muscles. No enlarged breasts, no estrogen surplus, and no watery, puffy-look-ing muscle system. If OT were available on the U.S. black market for steroids, bodybuilders, powerlifters, and weightlifters would go crazy for this East German anabolic.
OT enjoys a great popularity since it is quickly broken down by the body and the metabolites are excreted relatively quickly through the urine. The often-posed question regarding how many days before a test OT can be taken in order to be "clean" is difficult to answer specifically or in general. We know from a reli-able source that athletes who only take OT as a steroid and who, in part, take dosages of 10- 15 tablets/day, have discontinued the com-pound exactly five days before a doping test and tested negative. These indications are supported by the fact that even positive urine analyses have rarely mentioned the names Oral-Turinabol or chlordehydromethyl-testosterone.
The potential side effects of OT usually depend on the dosage level and are gender-specific. in women, depending on their predisposi-tion, the usual virilization symptoms occur and increase when dos-ages of more than 20 mg per day are taken over a prolonged time. In men the already discussed reduced testosterone production can rarely be avoided. Gynecomastia occurs rarely with OT Since the response of the water and electrolyte household is not overly dis-tinct athletes only rarely report water retention and high blood pressure. Acne, gastrointestinal pain, and uncontrolled aggressive behavior are also the exception rather than the rule with OT An increased libido is reported in most cases by both sexes. Since the substance chlordehydromethyltestosterone is I 7-alpha alkylated the manufacturer in its package insert recommends that the liver func-tion be checked regularly since it can be negatively affected by high dosages and the risk of possible liver damage cannot be excluded. Thus OT is also a steroid that can be taken without interruption for long intervals. Studies of male athletes who over a period of six weeks were given 10 mg OT/day did not show any indications of health-threatening effects.
________________________________________________
Here's another....
Oral Turinabol is an anabolic steroid developed and made famous by scientists in East Germany years ago. This is a more steroid of infamy actually, as it was one of the closely held secrets inside the East German Doping Machine. I am referring to a state sponsored doping program, called State Plan 14.25 that operated in East Germany for a period of time between the 1960`s and 1980`s.
Turanabol is a potent derivative of Dianabol. It is structurally a cross between methandrostenolone and clostebol (4-chlorotestosterone), having same base structure as Dianabol with the added 4-chloro alteration of clostebol. This makes Turanabol a kindelr gentler Dianabol, the new steroid displaying a much lower level of androgenic activity in comparison. Its anabolic activity is somewhat lower than that of Dianabol as well, but it does maintain a much favorable balance of anabolic to androgenic effect overall. This means that at any given level of muscle-building activity, Turanabol will be much less likely to produce he classic androgenic sides effects such as oily skin, acne, aggression and male-pattern hair loss (if genetically prone) than would Dianabol.
The 4-chloro attachment used with steroid also inhibits its ability to be aromatizes. Turanabol is therefore not going to present its user with unwanted estrogenic side effects like water retention, increased fat deposition or gynecomastia. While Dianabol tends to produce puffiness and a little fat retention in its users, which hides muscle definition, the exact opposite effect usually happens with Turanabol. Turanabol tends to ptomote gain in lean tissue mass, accompanied by an increased look of density, hardness and definition due to the intensified androgen to estrogen ratio. For bodybuilding purpose this makes Turanabol a great pre-contest or cutting steroid, not really a bulking agent of choice. Athletes in sports where speed tends to be a primary focus would also find favor in Turanabol, obtaining a strong anabolic benefit without having to carry around any extra water or fat weight. Although there is a clear relationship between Turanabol and Dianabol when it comes to molecular structure, ultimately it would be much more appropriate to be comparing the activities of this steroid to those of other mild, non aromatizing anabolics like Stanozolol, Oxandrolone or Priomobolan.
CRsteve
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sparetire said:I started my cycle recently, as of July 5th and I have to say, tbol is already kicking in! My current cycle is 500mgs of eq weekly and 40mgs of tbol ed for about 4 weeks. I'm on day 3 of tbol and i'm noticing slight muscle pumps while I am working out at the gym, but the best part is that my libido is starting to climb. None of the effects so far are anything to jump and jive over, but I do like the fact that I'm already feeling it. My biggest fear on this tbol is that I might get some water retention. I'm actually looking forward to only gaining about 10 pounds of lean hard mass while losing about 3-5 pounds of some good fat. I'm currently at 10.4% bf and hopefully, dropping. I'm going to introduce 50mgs of masteron eod at week 4 and run that for 6 weeks. This cycle should be fun
I'm looking to start this same cycle at the end of August/beginning of Sept., but I'll be going with 50mg ED of Tbol. If you could keep me updated on your gains, it would be greatly appreciated. My last cycle was 400mg EQ/50mg Winny and that went very well.
brooklynheight
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i like that
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