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TBOL Vs. MHN (M4OHN)

sundevil04

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Im trying to decide between these two for a jump start on a lean bulk cycle of testo E at 500mg/wk for 12 weeks and 700mg Primo for 14 weeks.

Which would be better for lean mass
1. tbol at 70mg/day for 4 - 6 weeks
2. MHN at 20mg for 4 - 6 weeks

Also, I'd really like to keep it to 4 weeks, would that make a difference in which to choose?

stats
30 y/o
5'9"
190
15% bf
1st cycle was 500mg test e for 12 weeks. This is cycle #2.
 
I've never ran either of those compounds but I was just readin up on nhm and it seem like a great compound for cutting and very similar to tren without all the unwanted side effects.
 
My next cycle will include 30mg MHN for 6 weeks as a kick stop.

Yea I looked it up today because I was thinking of running it in my next cycle which would be

1-6 test prop 100mg eod
1-6 mast prop 100mg eod
1-5 npp 100mg eod

But I don't know how I feel about running the npp with the nhm
 
I'll be running Tren as a kickstart to my cycle and MHN as a kick stop.

You can read this anyway:

MHN Description:

MHN, a.k.a. Methylhydroxynandrolone, is an oral derivative of the anabolic steroid nandrolone which was clinically developed for the treatment of severe wasting disorders such as advanced HIV and refractory anemias. The primary difference between the two, and the difference on which the others hinge, is the addition of the 4-hydroxyl group. This alteration both increases MHNs potency and causes it to act more like the steroid Trenbolone.

Additionally, MHN has been c-17alpha alkylated, a modification that permits the drug to pass through the liver and into the bloodstream without being deactivated, thereby making it effective for oral administration. The resulting compound is a potent oral steroid thats very similar to a stronger Anavar (Oxandrolone) a comprehensive DHT-derived, oral, anabolic steroid that provides you with some of everything (muscle, strength, definition, endurance, fat loss, etc.). As if those attributes werent remarkable enough, MHN does all this without aromatizing (converting testosterone to estrogen), making a favorite among competitive athletes.

MHN Form:

MHN comes in tablet form for oral administration, and is generally found in 5 mg of steroid per tablet. Neither MHN, nor any of its generic versions are still being commercially manufactured as prescription medications.

MHN Indications/Purpose:
Although this steroid is a nandrolone derivative, it acts quite differently from its chemical parent. While nandrolone is a relatively moderate steroid, MHN is a very potent one. As mentioned above, its properties are multi-faceted and vastly similar to the more comprehensive natures of Trenbolone and Anavar.

Based on its chemical structure (and unlike such steroids as Halotestin with its anabolic/androgenic ratio of 1900/850), MOHN on paper potency translates well into real world results, central to which is increased nitrogen retention for the production of solid muscle development on par with that of the steroid Trenbolone which a greater lean muscle generator than Anavar. MOHN users also boast reduced body fat, much like the clinically proven overall body fat loss acceleration, muscle hardening, and vascularity enhancing properties of Anavar. These benefits alone make MOHN a formidable androgen, but it also encompasses other traditional steroid properties like: increased red blood cell (RBC) production; improved endurance during exercise via better lactic acid clearing; enhanced oxygen and nutrient delivery to working muscles for greater endurance; better muscle glycogen restoration after exercise for faster recovery and; the inhibition of catabolism (muscle destruction).

MHN is a very adaptable compound that can be easily incorporated into all types of cycles, during both your bulking and cutting phases of training. When used within mass building cycles its usually stacked with testosterone and/or Deca-Durabolin. In cutting cycles its often combined with short-ester injectable anabolic steroids such as Testosterone Propionate, Trenbolone and Boldenone Acetate, but there is virtually no limit to its applications.

Due to a high milligram for milligram potency, the typical effective daily dosage is comparatively lower than most orals. For example, recommended dosages for Anavar, Winstrol and Turinabol are all within the 50-100 mg/day range. Even the legendary mass building Dianabols average dosage of 20-40 mg, is considered high with regard to MOHNs recommended 10-30 mg per day for 6-8 weeks.

MOHN Side Effects:
Since its a progestin (as are all nandrolones), it stimulates the progesterone receptor, as well as progesterone itself which opens the door for some unwanted side effects. As with any form of anabolic steroids, it can possibly cause side effects which fall into two primary categories, estrogenic and androgenic.

MOHNs very low aromatization means you can expect to be virtually free from estrogenic side effects (those due to increases in estrogen estradiol, prolactin, progesterone or progestin) which generally include increased water retention, body fat gain, and gynecomastia (actually due to an imbalance in the testosterone to estrogen ratio).

Androgenic side effects, those having to do with male sexual characteristics, occur due to elevated testosterone levels which are likely to produce oily skin, acne, body/facial hair growth, and testicular atrophy (temporary reduction in the size of your testicles). Androgen drug use of any kind is also known to accelerate balding, but only in men with a genetic predisposition for hair loss. In other words, if youre losing or going to lose your hair then testosterone supplementation can speed up the process, but it is never the primary cause of hair loss.

Synthetic testosterone and several other steroids, including nandrolones will shut down natural production altogether. A mere 100 mgs per week of either of these takes about 5-6 weeks to cause this shut down, 250-500 mgs shuts you down by the second week, and it takes roughly a month to return those testosterone levels to baseline. MOHN may not be androgenic enough to promote shut down, but it will definitely suppress natural testosterone production.
 
Tbol works better for me as a muscle builder for a 4 wk kick start .

Brad.
 
C.K. has used both. He says that MHN is his favorite steroid in one thread and that nothing has changed his body like it. If you've seen that Mofo, you would want to give it a go with that kinda endorsement.
 
C.K. has used both. He says that MHN is his favorite steroid in one thread and that nothing has changed his body like it. If you've seen that Mofo, you would want to give it a go with that kinda endorsement.


I read his post on MHN, thats actually what made me consider it. I was set on Tbol until I read that.
 
I've used both. Tbol is better for strength, mhn better for aesthetics for me. MHN gave me nice full muscles and it seemed like it kept me leaner.
 
I've used both. Tbol is better for strength, mhn better for aesthetics for me. MHN gave me nice full muscles and it seemed like it kept me leaner.

Thanks for the input, that's the info I was looking for. Did you notice much of a difference in LBM gains between the two?

Also, I've heard people say that they noticed fat loss with mhn, similar to var, did you notice the same?
 
Thanks for the input, that's the info I was looking for. Did you notice much of a difference in LBM gains between the two?

Also, I've heard people say that they noticed fat loss with mhn, similar to var, did you notice the same?

Maybe a little aid in fat loss. I was cutting when on the MHN and I really just noticed the fullness of my muscles while in a calorie deficit. I haven't used var so I can't compare.

As far as LBM gains between MHN and tbol, I don't think there's a ton of difference. You'll enjoy both.
 
After reading this it has me thinking about changing my little 6 week var, proviron, transaderm cycle to mhn. Stuff sounds very interesting.
 
tbol made me gain muscle and a lil strength

mhn was the best oral I've ever run hands down, great mood, vascularity, energy, stamina, strength, endurance, hardness, size and fat burn, I ran it solo at the end of my first recomp and can honestly say at 30 mgs ed it was better then the tbol/mast/test/primo I ran to start it
 
T-bol as of now is my favorite steroid experience.
For me the strength gains are like nothing els I've done.
Unfortunately DHT turns my prostate into a fucking bowling ball and im tiered of having pissy underwear.
So i started researching non DHT orals and came across MHN. If half of what i read is true i can't wait to get my hands on it. Planned on running it with pharm grade test-e, should be a good time.
I think either way you will be happy.
Just be smart and safe, good luck.
 
Very interesting compound. So I am thinking since it's also a 19-nor with added joint lubrication, not much mass gains, leaning effect this would be great for any sports athletes eh? I'm game.
 
I hear the sides are less and you don't really get massive strength boosts more like enhanced recovery. I hear tren makes you a monster so you will feel like 275 is 225, this stuff will make it seem like you trained 3 days ago versus yesterday. Not
 
I've heard that MHN will help you shred and get strong.

I'll let you know soon enough as I just bought enough to add in 30mg ed for six weeks at the end of my next cycle.

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