Tbol & Var together?

[buftup]

Who has run Tbol & Var at the same time? If so, at what dosage, duration, and what results did you get? What about liver toxicity running both together? Any PCT needed with these compounds?

 

[Whacked]

TOO damn liver toxic -----the oral ABUSE on this board is mind-boggling.

 

[hammercurls]

2 orals is STUPID. this thread must be a joke!

 

[Gaffa]

What about one after the another?,i.e tbol x amount of weeks then Var for X amount of weeks.

 

[Workout King]

just because you are mixing 2 different types of orals doesn't mean its going to be more liver toxic, does it? Don't think so. It will mainly depend on the combined dosage and how toxic the individual compound is. So that 25mg tbol + 25mg var will be just as bad if not less harmful than 50mg dbol...?

 

[americany13]

How about if any one can answer this.......VAR dosage X Dbol dosage X liver transplant = ?? newbie or oral abuser (not ready for AAS)
any how goodluck

 

[monster2929]

why do they say 50mg anadrol is way more toxic than 50mg of dbol?

 

[blut wump]

We get this every few weeks. Someone suggests multiple orals will wipe out your liver in short order and someone else points out that it's the total amount of 17AA that matters not the number of different orals. Can someone post up a link to some studies or has anyone had bloodwork done for comparison?

 

[jacked clown]

Good point blut wump seriously...Var is barely damaging and tbol is a lot better then most orals. So your saying Var 50mg and Tbol 50mg would be worse then anadrol 100mg or Halo 100mg?

 

[soxfan]

All I know is that I once did a cycle of 180mg ed, var only for eight weeks. I ran NO protective supps and post cycle bloodwork showed my liver values and lipid levels to be only in the high normal range. There was a good post here not long ago that stated that "oral toxicity" was in fact overblown.

I would have no qualms about doing 60 mg ed, each of var+tbol.

 

[Whacked]

Re-read the thread --- "fuckenshreaded" almost died from this type of oral use. A guy named MasswwithClass died 6 months ago from oral steroid abuse -- admitted by himself. It started out as kidney failure-->he was on dialysis----->died.

When will you people learn that oral steroids ARE FUCKING TOXIC and need to trerated with responsible measures. Sooner or later, it will catch up to you.

Limit your use to 50 mg/day total orals --- and 6 weeks max and MAYBE 2 cycles year. Live to cycle again. I'll never understand the obsession with orals on this board.

 

[Bozwell]

I dont think its that bad,Ive seen bros/vets on here run upto 550mg ed of 17aa roids ,100-200mg is not uncommon and no one says anything,I wouldent go over 100mg ed of 17aa for longer than 6 weeks myself then plenty of time away from the 17aa stuff, just keep an eye on things like if you start to get kideny/liver pain or dark urine call it a day wirth the orals and use some test
get some milk thistle and drink plenty of water
as for pct 3 weeks of nolva should do

 

[marshallmadman]

Rich Gaspari was rumored to do 500mg/Anadrol daily on a bulker. Pissing blood was a good sign to him.
As far as the effects of Var and tbol go, I would direct all your questions to [email protected]
J/K

 

[Retabolil2]

Who has run Tbol & Var at the same time? If so, at what dosage, duration, and what results did you get? What about liver toxicity running both together? Any PCT needed with these compounds?

I did it at 150mg each at the same time. it sucks compared to 300mg dbol though LOL but mush better than dbol for cutting purpose Call it liver abuse if you want but it was some great experience to me.

 

[hammercurls]

dang ret