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Tbol over Dbol as a kickstart?

most people will tell you d-bol is better for strength gains. people usually go for t-bol as a sub when they experiance bloat and estro sides from d-bol. Id say if strength is your goal d-bol takes the cake and theres no reason not to run it if you dont get sides from it. as far as back pumps i think t-bol might not be as bad in that department on a mg to mg comparison but you have to run double the dosage of d-bol to get around the same strength gains. id say stick to d-bol if you have no sides from it. its cheaper and you only need half the dosage making it about a third the price... at least with my connect!
 
t bal is so much better in my thinking, yes it cost more need to tak 20 ml r 50 a day but th gain and fat lost u get to keep. and d bal can and will give u bitch tit need i say more ther lol.one more thing d bal hard on ur liver wher t bal isnt so so tell me what do u want short term gain strenth/bulk r long term strenght and gain if this is a hard choices it shouldnt be only take d bal if tht only wht u can pay for be smart be safe
 
From what I have studied on it some say that Tbol is like Dbol less the sides. Some say that it is a more mild form of Dbol. My guess is that like most of this stuff it affects each person differently. So get it and try it and let us know how it works with you bro:supercool.
 
i have used botha bunch of time ans i must say i really like when i used GP's Tbol for a kick start the first 6 weeks of a testE/deca cycle at 40mg ed.
I would rec that over Dbol.
 
I would not use tbol as a kickstart, it is just plain stupid.
It is gonna take a dew weeks before you start seeing nice gains on tbol and that pretty much defeats the purpose on a "kicker"..

GL on your choice.
 
yea, i was disappointed with masteron as well, i probably wont touch tbol, or masteron again!

Disappointed with masteron?
What was your dosage? and BF%

I heard masteron is amazing at sub 8% BF levels..
 
Disappointed with masteron?
What was your dosage? and BF%

I heard masteron is amazing at sub 8% BF levels..


I used 500mg a week for 8-10 weeks

I have never been over 10% BF no matter how i eat, whole life has been like that. I did LOOK better for sure, but i wasnt trying to look more cut, i was using it for strength. Mid way through cycle i find out masteron isnt really used for strength butmore for cutting, so to me if i can lose BF% while taking test/dbol then i will since dbol is so much cheaper!
 
I am actually running GP Tbol right now fomr give my body a jump start. In the past, I have ran dbol, anavar and adrol. This cycle, I wanted to try something a bit different and focus on a more leaner approach. So far I am getting stronger, leaner and weight has jump up a couple lbs over the past 11 days. The effects of the TBOL are kicking in and I am feeling great.
 
not really could care less about estrogenic water lbs ina few days, those are NOT gains in my eyes.
I still rec Tbol or beastdrol over dbol for a kickstart.
all are nice thow, im not sayin i hate dbol.
just not my first pick any more
 
I have taken dbol before and I LOVE it because I dont get bloated, and I get strong as fuck. However I get horrible back pumps from it and when I run i feel like im dying. Ive also heard tbol is good for athletes and you keep more gains.

So should I just stick to dbol for strength gains or is tbol up there as well?

You could try TBOL. Very similar to DBOL in my opinion but without the
bloat and water retention.
 
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