oral is an oral. they all reek havik on your liver and kill ur hdh/ldl levels. orals should be limited to once a year use of 6-8wks max w/ plenty of liver support. tbol is dbol with no bloat. it is equi in an oral. i prefer anavar over all orals. if you want the results of tbol then ur better off shooting equi. much better result and no strain on ur liver. add equi to ur cycle and 6 wks anavar at the beginning or end.