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WARNING: This is very long.
I know there have been a lot of questions raised lately over the use of Tbol so I decided to post up a log of my experience. Here goes nothing:
I will keep you updated and measure weight every 3-4 days (my weight usually goes +-3lbs b/c of water and I wanted to avoid bias)
Well guys I decided to start a log for a cycle of BD Tbol at 30mg/day. If I feel that the dosage is not doing it, then I will increase by 10mg. The only change in my diet has been the amount of supplements added and shakes taken during the day.
I am also on a few OTC supplements: Multi-Vitamins, No2, Niacin, Magnesium & Potassium, Chromium Picoliniate, HMB, and several Amino Acids. The protein powders I use are: Nitro-Tech, Countdown Pre and Post workout, and MHP 12hr.
My diet is pretty much the same each day since I live in a pretty restricted environment with a meal plan (college):
8:00AM: Breakfast – Eggs, Bacon, Chicken and some form of starch (Hash browns, biskets, etc.) 40-50g Protein
12:30PM: Pre-Lunch – Deli Sandwich consists of wheat bread, meat and cheese totaling 50g Protein
1:30PM: Lunch – Fast Food before class, usually chicken or a sandwich: 30-40g Protein
6:00PM: Dinner – Whatever is on the menu, Stir-Fry, Grilled Chicken… etc. usually 40-55g Protein.
11:00PM: Before Bed 20-25g of protein in a sandwich with powder and pb&J
Totaling: 180g - 220g Protein from food (Does not include Shakes/Supplements)
Starting weight: 176 lbs
Day 1 11/14 : Tbol - 10mg morning 20mg afternoon. Workout in the afternoon, no overall different in feeling.
Diet: 305g Protein Total, Pre-Workout Shake 25g protein 50g Carbs, Post-Workout shake 60g Protein 50g carbs.
Day 2 11/15: Tbol – 10mg morning 20mg afternoon. A bit noticeable increase in energy, but no pumps in the gym.
Diet: 330g Protein Total, Morning slow acting Proteins 20g Protein, Pre-Workout Shake 25g Protein 50g carbs, Post-Workout shake 50g Protein 50g Carbs, Before bed 20g Shake.
Day 3 11/16: Tbol - 10mg morning 20mg 1PM 10mg 4PM. A little bit of extra energy but once again it could be just the mood. Still no pumps or noticeable difference.
Diet: 305g Protein Total, Usual Pre-Workout 25g 50g carbs, Post workout 55g 50g carbs, shake is 20g with a 2nd pb sandwich 15g.
Upped the dosage from here on out we'll see how my body reacts within the next couple of days.
Day 4 11/17: Tbol - 10mg morning 20mg 1PM 10mg 3PM.
Well I guess you could say day 4 is the day it kicks in.
Noticed a lot of extra energy throughout the day, and a bit of extra energy in the gym. Pumps were decent during the workout, but only comparable to NO-Explode, nothing incredible.
Diet: Diet: 330g Protein Total, Morning 12h extended Protein 25g, Usual Pre-Workout 25g 50g carbs, Post workout 55g 50g carbs, shake is 20g with another wheat sandwich. I weighed myself today and somehow I’m up to 179.6, probably just water but I figured I’d share with every one.
Day 5 11/18: Tbol - 20mg morn. 20mg 3PM
Diet: Same as above.
Pumps are great during workout. Noticed a little bit of water retention so I started a small dosage (.25mg ED) Armidex.
Day 6 11/19: Tbol - 20mg morn. 20mg 3PM
Diet: 4 meals + MRP shake and post workout.
Well I think I might be coming down with something, I feel a bit weak today but I did just start up a new set of vitamins so it might be the case.
Day 7 11/20: Tbol - 20mg morn. 20mg afternoon
Diet: 4 Meals + Post workout 60g shake.
Pumps continue to be great.
Day 8 11/21: Tbol - 20mg morn. 20mg afternoon
Diet: Same as above, trying to keep it pretty normal as far as 'feeding times' go.
This is the end of week one and I feel great, after reading a couple of other posts I see that other people are experiencing the same increase in energy and just overall feeling.
Day 9 11/22: Tbol - 20mg 5AM. 20mg 11AM
Diet: A little slacking because today I was in a car for 4+ hours and only had time for breakfast and the lunch I packed.
No workout today.
Day 10 11/23: Tbol - 20mg Afternoon 20mg 3Hr Later
Diet: A bit of a diet change since I am in a different environment. I will be eating a lot more whole foods as well as more meat since it will be available to me now (remember I'm usually a starving college student). Post workout shake as usual.
Workout was good today, I am still unable to train chest heavy because of a torn pectoral but other than that pumps are getting stronger.
Day 11 11/24: Tbol - 20mg 10AM 20mg 2PM
Diet: Turkey Day: No breakfast today but of course a huge 2PM meal followed by several hours of sleep.
No workout today, I got lazy from all the turkey.
Day 12 11/25: Tbol - 20mg 7AM 20mg 1PM
Diet: Early morning shake followed by a 10AM workout to get all that turkey out of my system
. Post Workout shake also.
Early morning workout was great; I used my local gym which FINALLY has a free weight power rack. I was able to do 365x6x3 which is a great increase over my previous rep max.
Day 13 11/26: Tbol - 20mg Morning 20mg Afternoon
Diet: Lacking today just ate a lot of junk as well as 2 meals of fast food.
Workout was mid afternoon, pumps are still great. Also note I am still taking in just over 1gal of water per day.
Day 14 11/27: Tbol - 20mg Morning 20mg Afternoon
Diet: Lazy Sunday. 1 meal out, ate 2 large steaks in mid afternoon also. No MRP or shakes.
Workout was slow paced today, also did 20min of running at 7:30 pace (first cardio since beginning Tbol)
Day 15 11/28: Tbol - 20mg 8AM 20mg 2PM
Diet: Back into the usual routine of 4-5 meals per day and MRP shakes. I also added several other supplements: B complex, Amino Acids, and a different multi vitamin (ran out of my previous one). I have also upped my calories by 500 per day to ensure that my body will have enough 'food'.
Here's the kicker, my weight is now at 185.4 using the same scale as before. I have no signs of fat gain even with an increase in calories in my diet(With 2 different anti-estrogens I thought it was note-worthy).
Note: I also started Nolvadex (BD Tamoxifen) 10mg/day at around day 5. I am VERY gyno prone (have already had 1 surgery to clear out childhood gyno at 16).
I know there have been a lot of questions raised lately over the use of Tbol so I decided to post up a log of my experience. Here goes nothing:
I will keep you updated and measure weight every 3-4 days (my weight usually goes +-3lbs b/c of water and I wanted to avoid bias)
Well guys I decided to start a log for a cycle of BD Tbol at 30mg/day. If I feel that the dosage is not doing it, then I will increase by 10mg. The only change in my diet has been the amount of supplements added and shakes taken during the day.
I am also on a few OTC supplements: Multi-Vitamins, No2, Niacin, Magnesium & Potassium, Chromium Picoliniate, HMB, and several Amino Acids. The protein powders I use are: Nitro-Tech, Countdown Pre and Post workout, and MHP 12hr.
My diet is pretty much the same each day since I live in a pretty restricted environment with a meal plan (college):
8:00AM: Breakfast – Eggs, Bacon, Chicken and some form of starch (Hash browns, biskets, etc.) 40-50g Protein
12:30PM: Pre-Lunch – Deli Sandwich consists of wheat bread, meat and cheese totaling 50g Protein
1:30PM: Lunch – Fast Food before class, usually chicken or a sandwich: 30-40g Protein
6:00PM: Dinner – Whatever is on the menu, Stir-Fry, Grilled Chicken… etc. usually 40-55g Protein.
11:00PM: Before Bed 20-25g of protein in a sandwich with powder and pb&J
Totaling: 180g - 220g Protein from food (Does not include Shakes/Supplements)
Starting weight: 176 lbs
Day 1 11/14 : Tbol - 10mg morning 20mg afternoon. Workout in the afternoon, no overall different in feeling.
Diet: 305g Protein Total, Pre-Workout Shake 25g protein 50g Carbs, Post-Workout shake 60g Protein 50g carbs.
Day 2 11/15: Tbol – 10mg morning 20mg afternoon. A bit noticeable increase in energy, but no pumps in the gym.
Diet: 330g Protein Total, Morning slow acting Proteins 20g Protein, Pre-Workout Shake 25g Protein 50g carbs, Post-Workout shake 50g Protein 50g Carbs, Before bed 20g Shake.
Day 3 11/16: Tbol - 10mg morning 20mg 1PM 10mg 4PM. A little bit of extra energy but once again it could be just the mood. Still no pumps or noticeable difference.
Diet: 305g Protein Total, Usual Pre-Workout 25g 50g carbs, Post workout 55g 50g carbs, shake is 20g with a 2nd pb sandwich 15g.
Upped the dosage from here on out we'll see how my body reacts within the next couple of days.
Day 4 11/17: Tbol - 10mg morning 20mg 1PM 10mg 3PM.
Well I guess you could say day 4 is the day it kicks in.
Noticed a lot of extra energy throughout the day, and a bit of extra energy in the gym. Pumps were decent during the workout, but only comparable to NO-Explode, nothing incredible.
Diet: Diet: 330g Protein Total, Morning 12h extended Protein 25g, Usual Pre-Workout 25g 50g carbs, Post workout 55g 50g carbs, shake is 20g with another wheat sandwich. I weighed myself today and somehow I’m up to 179.6, probably just water but I figured I’d share with every one.
Day 5 11/18: Tbol - 20mg morn. 20mg 3PM
Diet: Same as above.
Pumps are great during workout. Noticed a little bit of water retention so I started a small dosage (.25mg ED) Armidex.
Day 6 11/19: Tbol - 20mg morn. 20mg 3PM
Diet: 4 meals + MRP shake and post workout.
Well I think I might be coming down with something, I feel a bit weak today but I did just start up a new set of vitamins so it might be the case.
Day 7 11/20: Tbol - 20mg morn. 20mg afternoon
Diet: 4 Meals + Post workout 60g shake.
Pumps continue to be great.
Day 8 11/21: Tbol - 20mg morn. 20mg afternoon
Diet: Same as above, trying to keep it pretty normal as far as 'feeding times' go.
This is the end of week one and I feel great, after reading a couple of other posts I see that other people are experiencing the same increase in energy and just overall feeling.
Day 9 11/22: Tbol - 20mg 5AM. 20mg 11AM
Diet: A little slacking because today I was in a car for 4+ hours and only had time for breakfast and the lunch I packed.
No workout today.
Day 10 11/23: Tbol - 20mg Afternoon 20mg 3Hr Later
Diet: A bit of a diet change since I am in a different environment. I will be eating a lot more whole foods as well as more meat since it will be available to me now (remember I'm usually a starving college student). Post workout shake as usual.
Workout was good today, I am still unable to train chest heavy because of a torn pectoral but other than that pumps are getting stronger.
Day 11 11/24: Tbol - 20mg 10AM 20mg 2PM
Diet: Turkey Day: No breakfast today but of course a huge 2PM meal followed by several hours of sleep.
No workout today, I got lazy from all the turkey.
Day 12 11/25: Tbol - 20mg 7AM 20mg 1PM
Diet: Early morning shake followed by a 10AM workout to get all that turkey out of my system
. Post Workout shake also.Early morning workout was great; I used my local gym which FINALLY has a free weight power rack. I was able to do 365x6x3 which is a great increase over my previous rep max.
Day 13 11/26: Tbol - 20mg Morning 20mg Afternoon
Diet: Lacking today just ate a lot of junk as well as 2 meals of fast food.
Workout was mid afternoon, pumps are still great. Also note I am still taking in just over 1gal of water per day.
Day 14 11/27: Tbol - 20mg Morning 20mg Afternoon
Diet: Lazy Sunday. 1 meal out, ate 2 large steaks in mid afternoon also. No MRP or shakes.
Workout was slow paced today, also did 20min of running at 7:30 pace (first cardio since beginning Tbol)
Day 15 11/28: Tbol - 20mg 8AM 20mg 2PM
Diet: Back into the usual routine of 4-5 meals per day and MRP shakes. I also added several other supplements: B complex, Amino Acids, and a different multi vitamin (ran out of my previous one). I have also upped my calories by 500 per day to ensure that my body will have enough 'food'.
Here's the kicker, my weight is now at 185.4 using the same scale as before. I have no signs of fat gain even with an increase in calories in my diet(With 2 different anti-estrogens I thought it was note-worthy).
Note: I also started Nolvadex (BD Tamoxifen) 10mg/day at around day 5. I am VERY gyno prone (have already had 1 surgery to clear out childhood gyno at 16).
